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Posted: 14 November 2006 08:17 PM   [ Ignore ]  
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Washington has gone insane. Let me restate that. Washington is more insane today than it was yesterday. The democrats are eating their own with their Murtha/Hoyer flap. I thought only Republicans engaged in that unseemly behavior. Even though I despise Democrats for the most part, I have always been amazed at the unity they display. This public flap between Murtha and Hoyer is a rarity. I hope they seriously wound themselves.

The Republicans are in the process of shooting themselves in the foot. Not taking any lessons at all from their humiliating defeat to the feckless dems, they are about to retain their so-called leadership in congress and even resurrecting Trent Lott in the Senate. Some say it is a rebuke to Pres. Bush. I say it is stupidity. This is the gang that can’t shoot straight. The American people have rejected Republican leadership, so the Republican’s answer to that is to re-install the gang that garnered the rejection. As the Guinness guys would say, “Brilliant”. Presented with an opportunity to wipe the slate clean and bring in some new faces that pledge a return to conservative/Reagan values, the Reps choose to polish up the old, tired and defeated losers and fall on their faces. Bizarro world.

Not content to let the Republican congressional forces cement themselves into a long running stint in the minority, Pres. Bush is sending very mixed messages about his direction in the coming months. Reaching out to the people who have at times called him stupid, incompetent, a betrayer and a liar among other less flattering insults, we are all assured that good times are upon us. In a bipartisan spirit, illegal immigration will be solved. Hopefully, in time for millions of new democrat voters to cast their first ballots in 2008. Forgetting that the executive is in charge of foreign policy, Pres. Bush is listening to the defeatist democrats for ideas on how to rephrase “cut and run”. The Iraq Study Group will unveil their recommendations (the worst kept secret in Washington by the way) and these recommendations will usher in a new era of cooperation with Iran and Syria. It will be amazing to observe our former enemies magically transform themselves into partners for peace. There are those who said that Iraq was better off under Saddam. They may end up being correct when we abandon Iraq and Iran fills that vacuum.

Pardon me if I seem pessimistic about the state of affairs under the new realities in Washington. Perhaps I am just bitter about the election results. But when I read the news out of DC, I am astounded that one election has apparently rendered everyone in any position of authority completely insane. It leads me to believe that we may be screwed.

This is a time that demands decisive leadership. We are at war and our enemies want us dead. Watching Washington in this post election period is depressing. The time is ripe for a leader to emerge. Anyone, in either party with a bold vision for victory in the war and clear cut conservative principles could waltz into ‘08. I just don’t see anyone fitting that bill.

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Posted: 14 November 2006 08:30 PM   [ Ignore ]  [ # 1 ]

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Pres. Bush is listening to the defeatist democrats for ideas on how to rephrase “cut and run”.....Mr.conservative

What exactly then was his plan?

Things are not by any stretch of the imagination going well in Iraq using the bushco/neocon playbook...should he stay the course?..or pretend he was never trying to stay the course....

I want to know which democrat said we should pull all the troops out of Iraq with no plan in place for what to do after that....truly, the right has been accusing democrats of “cut and run” for months now, but I’ve never actually heard a democrat say we need to withdraw all the troops on a certain day.

No matter what we do in Iraq right now, it’s going to be even bloodier and y’all have your hero George W. Bush to thank for it. If we don’t find some other plan, US credibility in the world will be nil. Look at it this way, if Pelosi implements a plan in Iraq and it goes wrong, you guys can blame her...up until January, the republicans have been making all the decisions and it’s not like it’s a monumental success.

Stand with me as an American and lets support what our rightfully elected government decides to do!!!

 
 
Posted: 14 November 2006 08:40 PM   [ Ignore ]  [ # 2 ]

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Hipeefreek - 14 November 2006 08:30 PM

I want to know which democrat said we should pull all the troops out of Iraq with no plan in place for what to do after that....Stand with me as an American and lets support what our rightfully elected government decides to do!!!

Just today Senator Levin said,"We need to begin a phased redeployment of forces from Iraq in four to six months.” He did not elaborate on any plan beyond this “phased redeployment.” No democrat has ever offered a plan. Only cut and run.

As far as standing with you as an American, how often did you stand over the last six years and tell your fellow democrats to stop the insults towards our President and stand with him and the Republicans in support of our efforts? With the terms of endearment you use towards the President and Republicans, I would wager that you didn’t stand once and demand that the democrats support our rightfully elected leaders when those leaders were Republicans.

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Posted: 14 November 2006 08:46 PM   [ Ignore ]  [ # 3 ]

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Did Levin say to pull all troops from Iraq right away? did he say we wouldn’t be leaving soldiers some soldiers in place...that’s what cut and run means to me?

and by the way, a phased redeployment is one thing, but I’ve often said we can’t just walk away from Iraq. I also never said that bad mouthing the war or politicians is a bad thing...it’s allowed in the constitution…
It’s the neocons who have been running around trashing anyone who doesn’t stand in lock step behind president Bush no matter what he says or does…

So, now, if it’s the good American thing to do, to stand by the government, you guys better just stand there and smile or your a bunch of whining hypocrites.

 
 
Posted: 14 November 2006 08:54 PM   [ Ignore ]  [ # 4 ]

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Good non response. You won’t answer my question about how many times you demanded that your compatriots stand by the President and Republicans when they were in power. After all, that is what you told me to do now that the dems are in power. Seems to me, you are the hypocrite.

You also wanted examples of the democrats stating a date certain for withdrawal and insinuated that Bush had no plan. I provided you with an example of a democrat pushing for a date certain and offering no plan beyond withdrawal. Just what is your point beyond the usual “Bush evil, dems good,” routine?

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Posted: 14 November 2006 09:04 PM   [ Ignore ]  [ # 5 ]

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You’re right, I never told people to stand behind and loyally follow a leader who is doing the wrong thing...I spoke very loudly against the debacle in Iraq and those who crafted it…

I was called “traitor” “terrorist sympathizer” “un-american” “bush-hater” “dirty stkinging commie liberal” and several other colorful words because I dared to stand up and say something.

Your side (and I’m not singling you out as I don’t know you very well) told me that I wasn’t allowed to speak out. I’m just applying the rule to y’all...and I’d like to remind you that the democrats haven’t even taken a leadership position...the ball’s still in your court and you’re already trying to blame the dems...nice try but I doubt most of america is that stupid as to believe you.

You didn’t provide me with an answer of a democrat saying to pull all the troops out by a certain date and no do anything to help Iraq.

I’m very much opposed to doing that...we don’t get to stroll into a country and screw it up worse than it already was (I can’t imagine we managed to do that, but we did) and then walk back out. “Phased redeployment” does not mean cut and run.

 
 
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The Republicans are in the process of shooting themselves in the foot.

I believe they have already blown one foot off and are in the process of amputating the other leg above the knee with a dull and rusty butter knife.

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Posted: 14 November 2006 09:51 PM   [ Ignore ]  [ # 7 ]

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The Republican party’s downfall, this cycle, was their inability to see the corruption that they used to complain about. They got handed absolute power, and it corrupted them.
I come from a Yankee Republican family that goes back to Lincoln, and very few of us vote for the GOP anymore.
It’s kind of sad.

New England Republicans have been deserted by their party.

 
 
Posted: 15 November 2006 01:26 PM   [ Ignore ]  [ # 8 ]

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IF YOU DON’T STAND BEHIND OUR TROOPS PLEASE, FEEL FREE TO STAND IN FRONT OF THEM.

I’d love to stand in front of them...during their WELCOME HOME party.

 
 
Posted: 15 November 2006 08:44 PM   [ Ignore ]  [ # 9 ]

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Amen beervolcano!

 
 
Posted: 15 November 2006 11:20 PM   [ Ignore ]  [ # 10 ]

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Hipeefreek - 14 November 2006 09:04 PM

You didn’t provide me with an answer of a democrat saying to pull all the troops out by a certain date and no do anything to help Iraq.

OK. From this article:

In the House, Rep. Nancy Pelosi, the California Democrat likely to become the speaker, advocates an immediate troop pullout.

Is this a highly enough placed Democrat?

But congressional aides say such a resolution likely would be defeated in a floor vote.

Thank heavens some folks in the Democratic party have a modicum of common sense, for it will not come from the Speaker.

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Posted: 16 November 2006 10:34 AM   [ Ignore ]  [ # 11 ]

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Chalkie,

Where does it say to pull out all the troops and do nothing to assist with Iraq?

Honestly, if I find a big enough group of them I may switch teams, but I’m not hearing that. I’m hearing about scaling back, I’m hearing about changing the rolls, I’m hearing about phasing in Iraqi troops.

I don’t have a lot of faith in the democrats finding an easy fix for Iraq, but they aren’t the ones who broke it, and those who did need to start listening to the other side....and don’t you dare tell me that by supporting a bill that gave authority to Bush they pulled the trigger. That was Bush and you can spin it any way you want, but it was his decision.

 
 
Posted: 16 November 2006 11:10 AM   [ Ignore ]  [ # 12 ]

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All of the rhetoric of the left during the last election cycle gave aid and comfort to the enemy. I don’t care what they say now, they have the blood of Americans on their hands. The “he lied” or “we were mislead” or the previous nonsense that they didn’t “pull the trigger”. All of that encouraged the enemy.

You never heard any of them say that the roadside bombs, beheadings, slaughter were proof of what evil people we were up against. Never. It was always Bush’s fault. The terrorists kill, the Democrats use their actions against our President. They hence worked with the terrorists. We’ll supply atrocities for you to attack Bush with. Some say it was unwitting, does that excuse the blood on their heads? No. Democrats are the domestic enemies spoken of in the constitution.

‘Course they haven’t been capable of shame for many years. The Clintons saw to that.

 
 
Posted: 16 November 2006 02:46 PM   [ Ignore ]  [ # 13 ]

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Stealthy,

do you get dizzy and fall down spinning that hard?

I have strong opinions that appear to be at odds with most of the regulars here, but I have not stooped to that level of spin or accusation.

That’s flat disgusting and you should be ashamed!

 
 
Posted: 16 November 2006 05:12 PM   [ Ignore ]  [ # 14 ]

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"immediate troop pullout”

That is fairly clear to me and others. It does not say “immediate scale back”. It does not say “immediate troop reduction”.

pullout

n : to break off a military action with an enemy [syn: disengagement, fallback]

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Posted: 16 November 2006 05:20 PM   [ Ignore ]  [ # 15 ]

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I still haven’t heard a democrat call for removing all of our troops and leaving them to fend for themselves. Those are Hannity’s words when he takes a soundbite out of context.

 
 
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