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So Now, Suddenly, After All This Time, Hawaiian Officials Announce That Obama’s Birth Certificate Is, You Should Pardon the Expression, Kosher
Posted: 17 November 2008 02:20 AM   [ Ignore ]  [ # 121 ]  
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sevry - 17 November 2008 02:06 AM

Frank Lynch - 14 November 2008 05:07 PM

There are numerous reports that Obama plans a December visit to the cemetery.

Well, I mean he was just . . . you know to Hawaii. Long trip.

I’m sure he sent a card - best wishes, sorry ur dead - maybe with a Garfield theme, or something.

I mean think about it, isn’t that the insult of not taking the time to attend the funeral of the woman who raised you? It’s not like he can’t afford it. All those credit cards haven’t been charged back - just yet. So it’s a long trip - so what? He can’t be bothered to attend the funeral of his adoptive grandmother? Taking three days to see her when she was on the verge of dying, is one thing. Maybe they had to set up a photo-op, and get the birth certificate squared away, etc. Okay, sleazy. But okay. But now - he putative Pres. elect. He’s got nothing pressing, at least moreso than this.

And the guy can’t be bothered?

{Tonto voce} Him much heap busy with new hypoallergenic First Dog poodle and Lincoln Memorial photo-op. Him have important new job! Must make good impression to right people!

 
 
Posted: 17 November 2008 08:10 AM   [ Ignore ]  [ # 122 ]  
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pesca - 17 November 2008 12:10 AM

Marko, I think you are wrong about that.  Clearly, a president cannot attend every military funeral/ memorial.  Given the trouble Obama had meeting live soldiers in Germany on the campaign trail, nobody expects much from him on the military funeral front either.  This is not a horse that Obots (to quote Mark Steyn) should ride.

While I am not Marko, I think this will be an interesting comparison.

To begin with, can you tell us all how many funerals Bush attended?

And secondly, if it means nothing to you that Obama has met with troops elsewhere, I don’t think you’re showing sufficient respect for the troops.

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Posted: 17 November 2008 08:18 AM   [ Ignore ]  [ # 123 ]  
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sevry - 17 November 2008 12:59 AM

Frank Lynch - 13 November 2008 02:24 PM

You’d better

I’d better do then.

You can do the same.

Just wait. It’s not that long from now. Dec 1st.

It’s like a door that seems rusted shut. And then one day you accidently push it, and it just glides right open without any reisistance. So, we’ll see.

I hope the Court does the right thing. We all like to think the US Constitution includes enforcement provisions. But they’d be one of the first institutional authorities to do so, in this election cycle, to claim ‘controlling authority’. For everyone else, from the FEC to this or that election board it’s - not my yob, as the comedian used to say. Still, if it’s anybody’s, it would be the Court’s.

So Dec 1st.

Rocinante is going to need a lot of oats for this campaign.

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Posted: 17 November 2008 12:50 PM   [ Ignore ]  [ # 124 ]  
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Frank Lynch - 17 November 2008 08:10 AM

pesca - 17 November 2008 12:10 AM

Marko, I think you are wrong about that.  Clearly, a president cannot attend every military funeral/ memorial.  Given the trouble Obama had meeting live soldiers in Germany on the campaign trail, nobody expects much from him on the military funeral front either.  This is not a horse that Obots (to quote Mark Steyn) should ride.

While I am not Marko, I think this will be an interesting comparison.

To begin with, can you tell us all how many funerals Bush attended?

And secondly, if it means nothing to you that Obama has met with troops elsewhere, I don’t think you’re showing sufficient respect for the troops.

The president at a military funeral is a common event (and Bush was covered in this), but it’s not news.  If might be when Obama takes over!  As I said, support or respect for the military is not a winning strategy for Democrats - it reminds me of the time they said they need to be more “spiritual” to appeal to religious voters.  Sorry, it’s just not in the liberal DNA.

 
 
Posted: 17 November 2008 07:28 PM   [ Ignore ]  [ # 125 ]  
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pesca - 17 November 2008 12:50 PM

Frank Lynch - 17 November 2008 08:10 AM
pesca - 17 November 2008 12:10 AM

Marko, I think you are wrong about that.  Clearly, a president cannot attend every military funeral/ memorial.  Given the trouble Obama had meeting live soldiers in Germany on the campaign trail, nobody expects much from him on the military funeral front either.  This is not a horse that Obots (to quote Mark Steyn) should ride.

While I am not Marko, I think this will be an interesting comparison.

To begin with, can you tell us all how many funerals Bush attended?

And secondly, if it means nothing to you that Obama has met with troops elsewhere, I don’t think you’re showing sufficient respect for the troops.

The president at a military funeral is a common event (and Bush was covered in this), but it’s not news.  If might be when Obama takes over!  As I said, support or respect for the military is not a winning strategy for Democrats - it reminds me of the time they said they need to be more “spiritual” to appeal to religious voters.  Sorry, it’s just not in the liberal DNA.

Ah, so you can’t tell us how many times Bush has attended military funerals, then?

I am reminded of that Python skit, where the giraffe (?) spotter in the English midlands (?) is asked how many giraffes he has seen all these years. “Almost one.” “Almost one. Almost one. And is that another way of saying ‘zero’?”

How on earth could a person set up a perspective without a criterion in advance? Unless you are committed to hate Obama from the start, of course. There is no football league on the planet whose goalposts are adequately positioned for you, I’m afraid.

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Posted: 17 November 2008 10:14 PM   [ Ignore ]  [ # 126 ]  
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Frank Lynch - 17 November 2008 07:28 PM

you are committed to hate Obama

Communism. I detest Communism.

I just don’t know why you can’t wait. Dec 1st is only two weeks away.

And that’s plenty of time, by the way, for Barry to make a call, request his copy of the original certificate, and have it even airmailed in plenty of time to present to The Court.

Surely - that’s just what he’s doing right now . . yes?

Yes?

Have a little patience.

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Posted: 17 November 2008 10:46 PM   [ Ignore ]  [ # 127 ]  
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sevry - 17 November 2008 10:14 PM

Frank Lynch - 17 November 2008 07:28 PM

you are committed to hate Obama

Communism. I detest Communism.

I just don’t know why you can’t wait. Dec 1st is only two weeks away.

And that’s plenty of time, by the way, for Barry to make a call, request his copy of the original certificate, and have it even airmailed in plenty of time to present to The Court.

Surely - that’s just what he’s doing right now . . yes?

Yes?

Have a little patience.

I have plenty of patience. You only seem to have a chamber pot on your head, and your faithful steed Rocinante.

Seriously, have you made other plans for Dec 2? You’re going to need them. The Highlands are quite nice that time of year.

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Posted: 18 November 2008 01:18 AM   [ Ignore ]  [ # 128 ]  
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Frank Lynch - 17 November 2008 07:28 PM

pesca - 17 November 2008 12:50 PM
Frank Lynch - 17 November 2008 08:10 AM
pesca - 17 November 2008 12:10 AM

Marko, I think you are wrong about that.  Clearly, a president cannot attend every military funeral/ memorial.  Given the trouble Obama had meeting live soldiers in Germany on the campaign trail, nobody expects much from him on the military funeral front either.  This is not a horse that Obots (to quote Mark Steyn) should ride.

While I am not Marko, I think this will be an interesting comparison.

To begin with, can you tell us all how many funerals Bush attended?

And secondly, if it means nothing to you that Obama has met with troops elsewhere, I don’t think you’re showing sufficient respect for the troops.

The president at a military funeral is a common event (and Bush was covered in this), but it’s not news.  If might be when Obama takes over!  As I said, support or respect for the military is not a winning strategy for Democrats - it reminds me of the time they said they need to be more “spiritual” to appeal to religious voters.  Sorry, it’s just not in the liberal DNA.

Ah, so you can’t tell us how many times Bush has attended military funerals, then?

[rambling deleted]

If you want to start a topic on how many funerals Bush has attended, go ahead.  Unless you have been on another planet you will have seen these events over and over in the last few years.

If you want the exact number, take out your crayon and write to the White House (that’s in Washington, DC) who will be sure to have the exact body count for you.  I think it’s time to moveon.org, don’t you?

BTW, I don’t hate Obama, but like many liberals, he is very stupid on a large range of issues.  But, great voice, no argument there!

 
 
Posted: 18 November 2008 01:46 AM   [ Ignore ]  [ # 129 ]  
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Frank Lynch - 17 November 2008 10:46 PM

have you made other plans for Dec 2?

I’m the one telling - you - to just wait. Do what you will. Catch some sun. But you don’t know what will happen, and neither do I.

So just have patience.

Dec 1st.

We’ll see.

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Posted: 18 November 2008 02:38 AM   [ Ignore ]  [ # 130 ]  
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A lot at stake here

Everyone should be concerned about what is happening on Dec 1st.  If obama is NOT a natural born citizen then he cannot be the POTUS, if the supremes let him slide then we have done serious damage to our Country.  They CANNOT decide to ignore this for the so called “good of the Country” or say the people have spoken or any of those type of cop outs.  IF he cannot produce proof that he is eligible to be the POTUS then he MUST be removed from consideration.  How they handle it, via electoral college, a re-election or whatever other choice, can be decided by the court, but deciding whether or not it matters whether he is a Natural Born Citizen, is NOT there decison to make.  That was decided long ago and if we ignore it at this time to avoid riots and ill will then we will truly have anarchy!!

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Posted: 18 November 2008 03:42 AM   [ Ignore ]  [ # 131 ]  
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the Penguin - 18 November 2008 02:38 AM

A lot at stake here

Everyone should be concerned about what is happening on Dec 1st.  If obama is NOT a natural born citizen then he cannot be the POTUS, if the supremes let him slide then we have done serious damage to our Country.  They CANNOT decide to ignore this for the so called “good of the Country” or say the people have spoken or any of those type of cop outs.  IF he cannot produce proof that he is eligible to be the POTUS then he MUST be removed from consideration.  How they handle it, via electoral college, a re-election or whatever other choice, can be decided by the court, but deciding whether or not it matters whether he is a Natural Born Citizen, is NOT there decison to make.  That was decided long ago and if we ignore it at this time to avoid riots and ill will then we will truly have anarchy!!

We’ve already had a few dozen of those Constitutional crises in the last 40-80 years or so, they already treat our Constitution like so much toilet paper.

And all anyone does about it is grumble.

They’ve decided they handle Conservative grumbling, just fine. It doesn’t disturb them in the least.

 
 
Posted: 18 November 2008 11:01 PM   [ Ignore ]  [ # 132 ]  
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vladimir estragon - 18 November 2008 01:56 AM

If nothing happens on December 1, is sevry going to come in here and say he was wrong?

That I was wrong about not knowing for sure if they expected this, and if they did would they be angry at Barry for thumbing his nose at them, which surely he would? The is the SCOTUS, after all, and you’d think they’d have some . . pride.

Let’s just see. You’ll know. I’ll know. Dec 1st.

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