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wrapper - 25 May 2008 05:03 PM

Well, taking a country under the grip of a brutal dictator and making things worse is something I am ashamed of my country for causing to happen.  Yes, I would rather that AQ remained in the frontier between Afghanistan and Pakistan rather than flooding thru the door we stupidly opened in Iraq.

Killing tens of thousands of Iraqi civilians and creating millions of Iraqi refugees to fight AQ can only be condoned by the blackest of hearts.

I’m almost certain that if it were not Iraq, you would scrounge up something to make you ashamed of your country.  It’s what Lefties are bred to do. 

So far, about 100,000 civilians have been killed in this enterprise.  That’s about one-third of the civilians Saddam had executed as supreme dictator.  Civilian casualties continue to decline year over year.  There is a government in place that is attempting to bring all factions into the bebate, that’s called democracy.

If you insist on being ashamed of America, then I’m ashamed of you and I pity you.  You are the perfect example of what is wrong in America today among Liberals.  No sense of pride, no sense of respect, no sense of honor.  But always a keen sense of loathing and reproach. 

God, thank you for not creating me in that likeness.

impeachbush - 25 May 2008 02:06 AM

Noam Sayin - 24 May 2008 10:15 PM

impeachbush - 24 May 2008 09:18 PM

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Oh, for crying out loud.

I don’t think Guinness has a category for Most Time Spent in Willful Ignorance in the Face of Overwhelming Scrutiny, imp. Maybe you should channel your efforts into Juggling While Riding a Unicycle.

Can’t you do any better than that, Noam?  As one respondent to that obscure and grammatically-challenged blog (jveritas), says, “[That garbled transcript] looks like a bunch of chicken scratch to me.”

You had no real counter-argument, yet you chimed in, anyway.

You have a karaoke machine, don’t you?

wrapper - 25 May 2008 07:26 PM

Check the newspapers, we’ve been fighting AQ in Afghanistan since 2001.

but not the ones that went to Iraq.

In Dore Gold’s Hatred Kingdom (Amazon link below), he describes Wahhabist links to Iraq before 2001.  It appears that the Wahhabists were busy spreading their message of jihad long before Al Qaeda was formed.

This is why it’s naive to say just because AQ didn’t exist in Iraq before 9/11, we had no enemy there or that Iraq was free of terrorism. The Wahhabists were our enemy long before President Bush came into office, and they were busy everywhere. To lay the blame for Middle Eastern violence at the foot of President Bush is incredibly ignorant. 

http://www.amazon.com/Hatreds-Kingdom-Arabia-Supports-Terrorism/dp/0895261359

There’s no such thing as Al Qaeda...Only a bunch of murdering muslim Thugs. None of them work! They are all murderers of their own kind. I say use flame throwers..burn down the villages. Let the survivors live in tents. These muslim animals don’t deseve to be part of the human race.They all want to join Allah and get their 72 virgin goats and dogs...Fine. I say lets help them on their way.

wrapper - 25 May 2008 11:04 PM

WR distilled:

Well, Saddam killed a lot of innocent Iraqis............................................................................
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..............too.

Yes, I made a point about a ruthless dictator, twisted once again by you into something else. You might want to keep in mind that most of those dead civilians were killed by other Iraqis, insurgents taking advantage of the lack of security post-invasion, and by al Qaeda, thinking they could annex Iraq as part of their terrorist empire.  Looks like they both lose.

But my key point was the ease with which you and other Left-wingers feel shame for your country.  It seems to well up, a fundamental element of Leftist ideology that you can’t suppress. 

Since today is Memorial Day, I’ll say no more except that I suggest you find a decent military blog today and send thanks to a soldier for the sacrifice he is making on our behalf.

wrapper - 26 May 2008 12:15 PM

Someone that cannot be ashamed of any acts by his country is not a patriot, he’s a nationalist.  A patriot recognizes right and wrong, a nationalist recognizes his tribe.  Period.

The terms “patriot” and “nationalist” are not mutually exclusive.  I’m a patriot and a nationalist, unashamedly proud of my country, which has been the single most potent force for good on this planet in the history of civilization.

T. Paine - 26 May 2008 12:43 PM

wrapper - 26 May 2008 12:15 PM

Someone that cannot be ashamed of any acts by his country is not a patriot, he’s a nationalist.  A patriot recognizes right and wrong, a nationalist recognizes his tribe.  Period.

The terms “patriot” and “nationalist” are not mutually exclusive.  I’m a patriot and a nationalist, unashamedly proud of my country, which has been the single most potent force for good on this planet in the history of civilization.

And what is the term for a person who finds fault with another who is unashamed of, and unapologetic for, his country?

wrapper - 26 May 2008 12:15 PM

Someone that cannot be ashamed of any acts by his country is not a patriot, he’s a nationalist.  A patriot recognizes right and wrong, a nationalist recognizes his tribe.  Period.

poor little crapper he just want to chime in and be just like the big boys!