farmerguy - 11 May 2008 02:15 PM
It strikes me as courageous common sense to take the position of meeting enemies face to face. At least once.
It’s not “courageous common sense;” it’s craven folly.
The EU has been meeting with Iran for years, now, to talk “face to face” and it’s gotten the West nowhere.
Iran persists in developing nukes, while arming and supporting the IslamoNazi war in Iraq, Lebanon, Syria and the Paleostinian terroritories.
It’s easier to respond initially with fear
You’re confusing fear with resolve and strength.
-- to say you don’t want to give “tyrants and dictators the prestige of meeting with an American president” is like saying “I’m not sure how to deal with you, so I’m going to pretend you don’t exist, and maybe you’ll just go away.”
Preserving the prestige of the leader of the Free World is right!
You don’t honor the bellicosity of a childish monster like Imadinnerjacket, who has threatened the U.S. and Israel with destruction almost daily for the last 5 years, with a meeting.
I think it comes down to your preferred resolution: war or peace.
Not really.
Previous administrations have had aggressive “foreign policies” and endorsed (or turned a blind eye to) the aggressive practices of US businesses, and favored the notion of an American Empire.
Getting 3,000 people of our civilians killed on 9/11 had nothing to do with “aggressive practices of U.S. businesses or the favored notion of an American Empire.”
BTW, who has a favored notion of an American Empire? No-one.
This has made us extremely unpopular with everyone,
Oh no! We don’t want to be extremely unpopular!
and the wars these policies have invited upon us will ultimately bleed us dry.
What will bleed us dry are the social programs beloved by you Lefties like welfare, Medicare and Social Security.
And now you want to add “National health care” to the tab...
The families with ties to arms manufacturing are the only conceivable “winners” of these kinds of conflicts, because the money we waste chasing phantom villains WON’T be spent where it should for a strong, competitive America
The winners of this conflict are all Americans (and Afghans and Iraqis)--we’re safer and stronger because we fought this war and 50 million people who had lived in tyranny were liberated.
—on education, health care, loans for small businesses with bright ideas
We’ve thrown enough money at education.
The federal government has no business being in either education or health care.
As for small business loans, try your local bank.
If you have to depend on the feds to lend you money for your business, maybe your ideas aren’t all that “bright.”
Unless we change course, you can be sure the next Microsoft or Apple will come from India, Japan, or Canada.
Change course from what? To what?
Clearly the next “Microsoft or Apple” won’t come from India, Japan or Canada because they’ve already come out of America...30 years ago.
And so what if the Indians, Japanese or Canadians think of something clever? It’s a global market--America will find a way to fix, eat and enjoy a big piece of that pie, too.
I will absolutely vote for the candidate who will make an effort to take the wheel and steer us back onto the common-sense road most Americans want.
I don’t think we ever left that common sense road and I don’t plan to back an America-hating, “hate Whitey” Leftist like Obama now.
Meeting the “enemy” face to face, at least once, is first and foremost, the decent thing to do,
No. It’s the stupid thing to do and reveals Obama’s lack of experience, his tendency to “blame America first” and his naivete about the nature of our enemy.
and it’s the only possible way to avoid having to kill that enemy
The only possible way to avoid having to kill that enemy is to stand them down with all options on the table, including military ones.
… which then means you’re going to have to kill that enemy’s angry orphan child ... and then THAT angry orphan’s orphan…
END THE CYCLE! Seek understanding, don’t retreat into intolerance.
Iranian bellicosity is based on their Shi’ite beliefs of destroying the non-Muslim world and ushering in the arrival of the 12th Imam.
Toward that end, they are preparing the Muslim Bomb to take out the Great Satan (that would be US or the U.S.) and the Little Satan, Israel.
It’s has nothing to do with “orphan’s anger or hate.”
Let’s face it: if another Democrat President who preferred to “talk” to our enemies hadn’t done just that, we wouldn’t even be dealing with these Iranian crazies:
Yes, I’m talking Jimmy Carter. He should have dropped a nice MOAB on Tehran when they refused to let our embassy people go, but noooooooo, he had to be nice and chat with them for 444 days and left the Ayatollah’s regime in place (calling them “freedom fighters") and we’ve been playing catch up with the Iranians ever since in an effort to show them that we mean business.
A “President Obama"(*shudder*) would undo that at a stroke and then, Katie bar the door in the Middle East and here at home, too.
All in all, farmerguy, you hardly covered yourself in glory with your first post here.