Does any one actually think that John McCain will be elected? Spares us that, I hope.
McCain is a nutcase and and an advocate of Natl. Sucide for America. Part of the Rockfeller Republicians and a advocate of one world govt. and I know all of us are for that. Not.
Ann Coulter, a devout or a devote of Republicianism has said that the downfall of the republican party was when Ronald Regan choose George H. Bush as his VP. She, tho she has tried to help HRC and tho she is a Republician has stated in the past that McCain would be four years of madness for the USA.
While I do not all ways agree with her, I could not vote for John McCain for dog catcher, let alone President of the USA>
McCain, as is Bush, a RINO, both are for the NAU, etc. one world govt. etc. and frankly, what with NAFTA, GATT and some of the rest of the crap, the USA will be lucky to survive.
The idea of Obama as president leaves me cold, McCain leaves me all most frozen and frostbitten.
What two awful choices for the highest office in the USA.
Since the Democrat Party is going to run a Leftist Lightweight Loon McCain has an excellent chance of being elected. He was counted out a year ago by the experts and gee who is the last man standing. Obama is a total fraud without the experience to get elected to any major office. He is a Senator only because Peter Fitzgerald was bored in the Senate. Because of that creep we are saddled with the Obamanation.
I for one, as a former republician will and have in the past flatly state, the RINOS running and ruining the USA are not republicians. They are a freakish mixturer of one world govt., might makes right, do what I say, not what I do, devoted to destroying the constitution, see the FISA bill and read how it destroys the constituiton.
ANd the best the republician party can offer is john McCain? How pitiful that is the best they can do.
The RNC must have its head that its not seen daylight in the past 7 years.
two things seem to have happend in the past 16 years, the clintons seem to have destroyed the Democratic Party and George Bush seems to have destroyed the Republican party.
Both need to rise, like the phoenix and be renewed by tossing out the garbage in charge and installing some people who actualy give a dam about america, because as sure as water will freeze at 25 degrees, there is no one in Washington in the highest positions of power that gives a fig about the citizens and or the united states. Our nation is angry at these thugs destroying the USA, and well they ought to be, their behavior has been disgracefull so the people are angry for very good reasons..
And you may quote me.
Name one Republican you would have voted for for president? In all of history.
WASHINGTON — Republicans must regain the confidence of Americans and recast their message to voters to avoid a catastrophe in the fall congressional elections, top GOP officials said Wednesday in a stark postmortem of a loss in rural Mississippi.
Rep. Tom Cole of Oklahoma, who runs the committee tasked with helping elect Republicans to Congress, said Tuesday’s defeat in Mississippi — after losing GOP seats in other special elections in Illinois and Louisiana — was evidence that “a large section of the American people doesn’t have confidence in the Republican Party.”
“What we’ve got right now is a deficiency in our message and a loss of confidence by the American people to do what we say we’re going to do,” Cole said in a conference call with reporters.
He said, “When you lose three of these in a row, you have to get beyond campaign tactics and take a long hard look: Is there something wrong with your product?”
Cole did not elaborate on potential defects, but Democrats had a ready answer.
“The Republican message is ‘no, veto, and status quo,’ “ said Rep. Chris Van Hollen of Maryland, chairman of the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee.
He said Republicans couldn’t win in Mississippi even though they poured $1 million into the race, sent Vice President Cheney to campaign and tried to link Democratic candidate Travis Childers to the controversy over Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama’s former pastor.
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“This clearly is a sign that there is no congressional district that is safe for Republican candidates who are following in the Bush shadow,” said Van Hollen, whose committee has $44.3 million on hand, compared with $7.2 million for Cole’s National Republican Congressional Committee.
Davis called the atmosphere for House Republicans “the worst since Watergate and is far more toxic than the fall of 2006.”
In other words, they believe that they don’t have to work to keep their base happy. Instead, they can toss a few scraps to conservatives and spend the bulk of their time reaching out the independents and still win elections.
If you want to see how flawed that line of reasoning really is, just take a look at the turnout from the special election in Mississippi’s First Congressional District.
What you’ll note is that there was no surge in the number of Democratic voters. To the contrary, that GOP lost that election because the bottom fell out on the Republican side. The voters are still there, they’re just so dispirited by the lousy performance of the GOP that they couldn’t rouse themselves to go to the polls.
A conservative wins in Mississippi; he just happens to be a Democrat. (Hillary’s win in West Virginia is meaningless to everyone, except maybe to her and her campaign-paid hairdresser.)
McCain is running as a third party candidate, trying to use the global warming issue he believes in (why, ‘cause he’s marinated his brains in the media bowl) to shake his tail feathers at independents and Democrats.
The trouble is that this is a fatally flawed political strategy because McCain is driving some likely voters away in an attempt to attract others who his campaign imagines exist. McCain is a regular guy, despite his dalliances with the international set.
Folks in states like Ohio, Pennsylvania, Missouri, Arkansas—the states he needs to carry to get to 270 electoral college votes—work with their hands; carbon is what they do. They sure don’t buy no eco clothes, unless they come printed with their favorite NASCAR number or “Git ‘er done!”.
Think the following announcement would be popular: “Ladies and Gentlemen, Turn off your engines. We are still waiting for our federal emissions carbon offset approval notice.”
Here are my observations:
1. This is still a slightly-right of center country
2. “Conservative” is better than “Republican”
3. The biggest threat to blue collar jobs is political, mostly “Global Warming” legislation
4. The Republicans are now the third party, behind Democrats and Independents
5. Brace yourself; the inept Republicans and the kidding-themselves Blue Dog Democrats are about to hand the keys to the government to Nancy, Harry and Barack.
The Democrats won another special election yesterday in a (formerly?) heavily Republican Louisiana district. Seems to me another case of the Democrats having a new, attractive, centrist candidate while the Republicans ran a dinosaur who was last seen losing to Mary Landrieu in 1996.
This was similarly the case in Hastert’s district. The Dems had a quality candidate and the Republicans had somebody who’d lost elections in his most recent two attempts at public office.
So, who’s responsible in the Republican party for scaring up good candidates and why can’t he find any? Does he suck at his job? Does the Republican equivalent of the nutroots hold too much sway in the district level primary process, forcing unelectable candidates on the party (McCain argues against this)? Do the “party elders” have too much sway in discouraging competitive primaries, relying on the “who’s turn is it now” system of choosing candidates while forcing younger, hipper candidates to knock on doors and stuff envelopes? Or is the problem that all the people who would be attractive new Republican candidates are too busy in the private sector making many multiples of the crappy salary they offer Congressmen these days (of course, they make up for that crappy salary by forcing you to live away from your family for most of the year!)?
In an environment where the Republican Brand has about as much appeal as Bear Stearns stock, the coming tsunami of Democrat pickups is going to be even larger if the party can’t even promote top notch new blood to the head of the local tickets. This needs to be discussed and addressed by people like PowerLine or it’s just going to get worse.
Good post PhilBill. I think you are right that it is current management of ‘The Brand’ that is largely to blame. What we needed to do in this elections was to start from a philosophical base and then find the candidate who best represented that base. You can’t do that with people who have enjoyed their parties power for so long that maintaining a dying breed (themselves) becomes more important than redefining ourselves for a new era.
Remember that in the last two elections the Republican, conservative and relegious base of the party was strong, vibrant and longing for action and change, longing to complete tasks. In this we are tired, out of ideas and only promising more of the same policies. Policies which in many areas have tired and failed.
I think that the Presidents plan of never changing his team helped to slow the dynamic of the party. People who were failing; whether it be Rumsfeld, Rice or others just stayed on and on. The President should have re-dynamised the party by bringing new blood to the top so that fresh new faces with fresh new ideas rebirthed the ideals and had a shelf from which to launch their campaigns.
As many posters have said it is only a wholesale slaughter of the GOP that can bring change. A fundamental revolution has to occur among Republicans and conservatives to make them hungry for the fight and full of ideas to fight it.
It is inevatable in this Democracy that power shifts between the two main parties every eight years, sometimes four. This time I don’t thing that the Democrats deserve to win because they are only winning because we are losing not because they are mounting any clear philosophical challenge. That could mean that they last only one term.
Unfortunatly at this time I cannot see the future for our party nor can anyone else I have read. perhaps it will only unfold in opposition to a Democrat President.
It is clear that Rep turnout simply was not there, even Dem turnout was less than in 2004.
But the Rep drop from 2004 to 2008 was over 5 to 1. Compare even the 2002 and 2006 Rep numbers and 95k should have shown up and they couldn’t even break 50k which some years would have carried by a small margin.
This clearly was a sit out. Now it needs to be seen as to what was the cause.
Was it a apathy race or was it a message from voters for the party to wake TFU?
Even when you look at the recent primary in Mississippi
Mc/Huck/Paul
113,074/17,943/5,510
And that’s for the whole state. Now as shown above just this one of four congressional districts can double that total.
Even on the Dem side of the primary race which Hill lost in the state 61/37 she carried the district over Obama with 26% of the voters in the district being Black.
Putting faith out front
More Election 2008 coverage Washington and Chicago - A day after the Republican Party suffered its third straight loss in special congressional races for normally safe GOP seats, the political aftershocks are still reverberating – and heading right to the heart of the presidential race.
Republicans are reeling over Tuesday’s 54-46 percent loss of a long-held Mississippi congressional seat to a Democrat, in a district that President Bush won in 2004 with 62 percent of the vote. Political analysts note that the Democrats ran the stronger candidate – a pro-gun, anti-abortion conservative named Travis Childers – but the loss provides yet more evidence of the depth of anti-Republican sentiment among voters.
At the presidential level, if the Democrats were about to nominate someone who runs strong among white working-class voters, the race would be over. But by all appearances, they’re not. And so John McCain, the presumptive GOP presidential nominee, still has a fighting chance in November.
Barack Obama, the likely Democratic nominee even after his massive loss to Hillary Rodham Clinton Tuesday in West Virginia, will have his work cut out for him when it’s time to reunite the party for the general election campaign.
Still, there’s no doubt that the “R” (for Republican) after Senator McCain’s name is toxic, with President Bush’s job approvals in the 20s and more than 80 percent of voters saying the country is headed in the wrong direction.
“I do believe that the damage to the GOP brand is a burden on McCain,” says Stuart Rothenberg, editor of a nonpartisan political newsletter.
In recent weeks, McCain has benefited from the Democrats’ protracted nomination battle, with most of the media attention going to the party’s internal divisions and candidate arguments. The Arizona senator has been able to campaign with little public scrutiny.
McCain may be at his high-water mark right now, says Mr. Rothenberg. In fact, Senator Obama’s continuing struggle to attract white working-class voters means McCain has a chance. “If [Obama] didn’t have a problem with them, I’m not sure we would even be following this,” he says.
http://www.csmonitor.com/2008/0515/p02s03-uspo.html
Now remember there is other politics of importance in play here in Mississippi.
Besides MS01 we now have MS03 in play which is also a fairly strong Rep district.
What is happening is Wicker from 01 was appointed to fill the slot for Trent Lott which created the open seat.
Pickering from 03 was waiting to see what Thad Cochran was going to do about the other Sen seat and when he said he was running again Pickering decided to retire from the 03 district.
It looks like Pickering is going to be the favorite to replace Haley Barbour as Gov.
Currently Pickering is the only Rep house member from Miss.
Liberalism doesn’t work. Being the Democrat-lite Party doesn’t work.
They elected CONSERVATIVES to those lost Republican Seats. Republicans lost but Conservatives won. Simple.
Al de Chicago - 05 May 2008 09:26 PM
It should be very obvious that the American people are NOT conservative on the whole. At best 30% could be considered such. This is proved by the continued existence of the Party of Treason.
Uh sorry buddy take any American Government class and you will know that America is center of right. 30% are conservatives. But a lot are center of right. We never had a MODERN liberal president. Even Carter wasn’t as far left and McGovern, Dukakis and Obama. Only 20% of Americans are Liberals. While the other 50% are Moderates. But clearly we can carry most moderates by looking at Reagan.
And Reagan won more than just the media. Eisenhower landslide. Nixon landslide. Reagan landslide. Bush Snr. landslide.
Reagan was the only MODERN President American wanted a third term of. Thats why they voted for Bush Snr and against Dukakis too. We are a center of right nation. Run that way. Don’t run like a Euro.
Liberalism doesn’t work. Being the Democrat-lite Party doesn’t work.
They elected CONSERVATIVES to those lost Republican Seats. Republicans lost but Conservatives won. Simple.
Al de Chicago - 05 May 2008 09:26 PM
It should be very obvious that the American people are NOT conservative on the whole. At best 30% could be considered such. This is proved by the continued existence of the Party of Treason.
Uh sorry buddy take any American Government class and you will know that America is center of right. 30% are conservatives. You need to forget what people SAY they are and look at how they vote. Besides I SAID that 30% called themselves “conservative”. There are VERY few real conservatives elected on a statewide basis anywhere. Conservatives cannot win running as conservatives for many reasons but mainly because the Far Right has been caricatured by the Treason Media. Of course, plenty of ammunition has been given that pack of liars by fanatics. But a lot are center of right. We never had a MODERN liberal president. Even Carter wasn’t as far left and McGovern, Dukakis and Obama. Only 20% of Americans are Liberals. While the other 50% are Moderates. But clearly we can carry most moderates by looking at Reagan. Reagan’s appeal was not ideological. He was an expert at handling the media and they were not able to undermine him. This was a guy who had been welcomed into millions of Americans’ homes every Sunday night for decades who had babysat the kids with Death Valley Days. He was the kindly Grandpa all (except for the Leftist haters) loved. And the Far Right (Human Events etc.) regularly excoriated him for not being conservative enough in his cooperation with the RATS in Congress. Now it IS true that we cannot win without appealing to the middle but it is also true that campaigning on the platform acceptable to the Far Right will not provide that appeal. And it is also true that appealing to the middle ENRAGES the Right as McCain’s actions have done.
And Reagan won more than just the media. Reagan ran against a totally discredited president and a fool promising to raise taxes. Eisenhower landslide. Uh, Ike was a War Hero. Nixon landslide. Uh, Nixon barely won his first race and beat a far Left candidate. Reagan landslide. Bush Snr. landslide. And due to the Right’s abandonment and the little Pineapple with Ears he was beaten by Blow Job Bill.
Reagan was the only MODERN President American wanted a third term of. Thats why they voted for Bush Snr and against Dukakis too. We are a center of right nation. Run that way. Don’t run like a Euro.
Reagan was an anomaly not to be repeated. We may as well hark back to George Washington as Ronaldus Magnus. We have had two decades of intensive Anti-Conservative propaganda which has undermined its effectiveness to the point that only in a handful of states can a conservative be elected governor. Running in a fashion which appeals to the Far Right is a prescription for disaster.
WASHINGTON — Republicans must regain the confidence of Americans and recast their message to voters to avoid a catastrophe in the fall congressional elections, top GOP officials said Wednesday in a stark postmortem of a loss in rural Mississippi.
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Davis called the atmosphere for House Republicans “the worst since Watergate and is far more toxic than the fall of 2006.”
People are worried about their money due to economic fears. Democrats have declared their intent to raise taxes.
The public is worried about the price of gas. Democrats declared it off limits to increase the domestic supply.
With a political environment like that, if the Republicans lose this election, they will have deserved it.
WASHINGTON — Republicans must regain the confidence of Americans and recast their message to voters to avoid a catastrophe in the fall congressional elections, top GOP officials said Wednesday in a stark postmortem of a loss in rural Mississippi.
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Davis called the atmosphere for House Republicans “the worst since Watergate and is far more toxic than the fall of 2006.”
People are worried about their money due to economic fears. Democrats have declared their intent to raise taxes.
The public is worried about the price of gas. Democrats declared it off limits to increase the domestic supply.
With a political environment like that, if the Republicans lose this election, they will have deserved it.
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The GOP is not being beaten by the RATS but by their media auxillary. It is amazing that any Republicans get elected anywhere ever. Until that force is defeated they cannot win.
The two points you note shows just how lamebrained the electorate is. Jews voting for Hitler would be just as sensible.
WASHINGTON — Republicans must regain the confidence of Americans and recast their message to voters to avoid a catastrophe in the fall congressional elections, top GOP officials said Wednesday in a stark postmortem of a loss in rural Mississippi.
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Davis called the atmosphere for House Republicans “the worst since Watergate and is far more toxic than the fall of 2006.”
People are worried about their money due to economic fears. Democrats have declared their intent to raise taxes.
The public is worried about the price of gas. Democrats declared it off limits to increase the domestic supply.
With a political environment like that, if the Republicans lose this election, they will have deserved it.
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Democrats are always campaigning to up the price of gas, complaining about Oil company profits and wanting green taxes. But of course they shout the loudest when the price goes up.
