The left comedians like Maher, Colbert or John Stewart have their own morality. They will never make jokes about or disrespect their own heroes and saints.
They will never criticise Nelson Mandela for being a personal supporter abd friend of Mugabe.
They will disrespect Hillary because she’s white but they never make a joke at the expense of Obama; only his critics.
Bill Maher has every right to disrespect the pope, he is after all an atheist. He is probably had a bad deal from his Catholic Irish family But it’s the depth of the slander against the Pope or the President that is so unbalanced.
A cheap laugh can always be got at the expense of those the liberals hate but the dishonesty is in not applying the same standards to Cindi Sheehan, Jane Fonda or Michael Moore.
I forgot to report that I made a call to Bill Nelson at HBO and the switchboard referred me to their consumer relations office. Not being happy with that I emailed him at just to make sure he got something.
I also canceled HBO and instructed my broker to dump anything to do with Time Warner HBO. Not that I expect anything to happen but it made me happy.
The left comedians like Maher, Colbert or John Stewart have their own morality. They will never make jokes about or disrespect their own heroes and saints.
The left comedians like Maher, Colbert or John Stewart have their own morality. They will never make jokes about or disrespect their own heroes and saints.
You obviously don’t watch the Daily Show.
I do watch the Daily Show and have a great deal of respect for John Stewart. However, he has been loathe to take on Obama and on a slow news day he always turns to cheap laughs at the President. Most of his stuff is ok but he has not been evenhanded with Hillary and obama.
I forgot to report that I made a call to Bill Nelson at HBO and the switchboard referred me to their consumer relations office. Not being happy with that I emailed him at just to make sure he got something.
I also canceled HBO and instructed my broker to dump anything to do with Time Warner HBO. Not that I expect anything to happen but it made me happy.
How does the Catholic Church get away with all of their buggery?
It’s not the numbers, it’s the organization, and it’s the immunity. This cult, which violated the very notion of marriage, was a single compound, isolated out in the fields. The institutional church could shuttle its homosexuals from diocese to diocese, around the world. And when the authorities, particularly in the US, decided they’d had enough, the Vatican could intervene and draft these guys for offices there, granting them diplomatic immunity.
But I guess that doesn’t make for a Bill Maher sort of joke?
Rocketman ~(Ä)~ - 16 April 2008 09:11 AM
It’s like if you can’t pay your mortgage, you’re a deadbeat, but if you can’t pay a million mortgages, you’re Bear Stearns, and we bail you out.
Right, because of all that other institutions stood to loose, and couldn’t gain. And because these were near to the ‘gatekeepers’ they couldn’t allow the ‘backbone’, if you see any parallel, to collapse.
It’s a ‘joke’ that is a non-sequitur. It doesn’t follow, in any reality. A joke has to be true, to be funny.
Rocketman ~(Ä)~ - 16 April 2008 09:11 AM
if the Pope was, instead of a religious figure, merely the CEO of a nationwide chain of daycare centers where thousands of employees had been caught molesting kids and then covering it up, he’d be arrested faster than you can say, “Who wants to touch Mister Wiggle?”
That may not be bust-a-gut funny. But it is a little funny. And as many abuse victims have surely said, that’s the truth. If not for the institution that they stole from Catholics, if not for continued diplomatic immunity which Catholics no longer even have, as Catholics, Wotyla and Ratzinger and a HOST of others, would be behind bars on conspiracy, aiding in commission of a crime, criminal negligence, and so on. Many of the rest would be up on charges of embezzlement, and who knows what else.
For the right wing, every issue comes down to guns or sodomy, or both.
Or to freedom from liberal intolerance that won’t allow criticism of the ‘chosen lifestyle’ of vice, or that won’t allow that even the Constitution allows citizens to possess guns. Most every issue comes down to morality and truth. There are many who find that inconvenient. They generally go by the liberal-label, though so embarrassed by the truth that they will insist upon the term, ‘progressive’. And so we are fooled by that, yes?
I don’t know why you atributed all those quotes to ME, sevry, but those were Bill Maher’s filthy comments, NOT mine.
sevry: “That may not be bust-a-gut funny. But it is a little funny. And as many abuse victims have surely said, that’s the truth. If not for the institution that they stole from Catholics, if not for continued diplomatic immunity which Catholics no longer even have, as Catholics, Wotyla and Ratzinger and a HOST of others, would be behind bars on conspiracy, aiding in commission of a crime, criminal negligence, and so on. Many of the rest would be up on charges of embezzlement, and who knows what else.”
Pope [sic] JP II turned a blind eye to the worldwide problem of priestly sexual abuse - probably not wanting to offend homosexuals or further the diminish the ranks of priests. THE primary responsibility lies with Bernard Cardinal Law. I’m sure you are aware that he was the Archbishop of St. Louis before becoming a Cardinal and being post to Boston, eh? Well, St. Louis is where he learned to cover up for the homosexuals in the ranks. Perhaps THAT is why he was elevated. And HE is not the ONLY one either.
Ordinarily, most decent people would be terribly offended if Maher had said such hateful things about them or their leadership. Hell, most DECENT people would be appalled at his comments no matter their faith.
If I have read correctly, Maher’s “apology”, much as I expected, it was not an apology at all - Maher: “Okay, so Pope Ratzinger [sic] was not a Nazi.” That doesn’t sound much like an apology to me. BTW, just for the record, Maher is a Jew. His mommy is Jewish, therefore HE is too. It would be nice if some of THEM had spoken up too. It would be way too easy, cheap, and indecent to make “jokes” about a drunk Irish Catholic screwing a hirsute Jewess - at least once.
I don’t know why you atributed all those quotes to ME, sevry, but those were Bill Maher’s filthy comments, NOT mine.
It was just to quote a message of yours. The context was that you, yourself, were quoting someone else, as anyone going back to the message could see.
Rocketman ~(Ä)~ - 23 April 2008 08:49 AM
Pope [sic] JP II turned a blind eye to the worldwide problem of priestly sexual abuse
And Ratzinger, particularly. But you can’t single them out, save for those two, one former ‘Pope’, one to claim so, now. The blame in this sect falls on a lot of bishops who turned away complaints, and turned from complaints, who created this homosexual ‘underground’ intended to allow predators to escape secular criminal justice, ultimately if it came down to it granting them diplomatic immunity.
It wasn’t just Law, it was most every one. And those not immediately involved, were silent, giving their approval by not objecting or not demanding the right thing be done.
Perspective is also important. It was hardly just this faux-catholic sect that was infected by such vice and the diabolic desire to cover it up and promote it further. You find this in various religions and cults, in the denominations, even in the secular realm, in various industries and occupations. The problem, plain and simple, was this PC desire to promote homosexuality. That fairly characterized a lot of ‘activism’ in the 1990s. But the opening of the seminaries to such, and closing them to men who objected to that behavior on moral grounds, did precede the 1990s, and it generally traced to the 1960s and 1970s early period of the Vatican II era. And that falls squarely on these apostates calling themselves ‘catholic’. They laid the foundation for the ‘troubles’ very carefully. They wished chaos, treachery, and financial loss on the institution they had stolen from Catholics. And this was yet another way, among countless that they’ve devised.
In other words, simply, some will say it’s unfortunate but it was something that just - happened - because everything just - happens. Nothing is caused. Others, such as myself, see evidence of an actual plan and assualt on the very institutions they despised and had taken from the faithful.
sevry: “And Ratzinger, particularly. But you can’t single them out, save for those two, one former ‘Pope’, one to claim so, now. The blame in this sect falls on a lot of bishops who turned away complaints, and turned from complaints, who created this homosexual ‘underground’ intended to allow predators to escape secular criminal justice, ultimately if it came down to it granting them diplomatic immunity.
It wasn’t just Law, it was most every one. And those not immediately involved, were silent, giving their approval by not objecting or not demanding the right thing be done.”
True, True, and True.
The Bishops of Phoenix (O’Brien) and Los Angeles (I forget his name), among many others, were also found to have covered up the homosex scandal.
Those priests who DID act out were simply shuttled off to other dioceses, or, when caught in flagrante, sent off to the special counseling campus for wayward members of the priesthood.
Before I digress TOO much ...
What if a CONSERVATIVE comedian had made such a nasty joke about homosexuals, Jews, etc.? You saw and heard the way over-the-top reaction to Jay Leno’s innocent comment about gays? Why, you’d think that he had called for their extermination! Of course he prostrated himself before the homosex community and begged forgiveness.
The problem, plain and simple, was this PC desire to promote homosexuality.
Right. The Roman Catholic Church was so easily swayed by “political correctness” that they allowed the homosexuals to run loose. That explains it. Sure.
