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Iran is winning this war.

In the defeato-leftist mind, sure.

But on the ground in Iraq, not so much.

The Iraqi army continues its operations in Basra, arresting and killing Iranian-backed Shi’ite terrorists. By calling these terrorists “criminals,” the Maliki government has shrewdly given al Sadr a face-saving out: Surely al Sadr supports taking action against criminals, doesn’t he?

Why, of course!

Al Qaeda has been pushed into the northern corner of Iraq, where its members are being eliminated one by one, and the Iraqi government is finally beginning the process of dismantling the Shi’ite militias.

The most important and overlooked aspect of the fighting is Basra was that the Iraqi army was able to quickly reinforce a weak brigade and instantly change its tactics. The quality of a fighting force is based mainly on its ability to adapt.

The old Iraqi army was incapable of doing this. People can bray all they want about the invincible juggernaut of Iran, but in the real world the fledgling Iraqi army took on the old pros of the Qod’s Force and Hezbollah and didn’t blink.

This is a hugely encouraging sign.  For the good guys, not the defeato-leftists.

Tom W. - 04 April 2008 09:12 PM

Iran is winning this war.

In the defeato-leftist mind, sure.

But on the ground in Iraq, not so much.

The Iraqi army continues its operations in Basra, arresting and killing Iranian-backed Shi’ite terrorists. By calling these terrorists “criminals,” the Maliki government has shrewdly given al Sadr a face-saving out: Surely al Sadr supports taking action against criminals, doesn’t he?

Why, of course!

Al Qaeda has been pushed into the northern corner of Iraq, where its members are being eliminated one by one, and the Iraqi government is finally beginning the process of dismantling the Shi’ite militias.

The most important and overlooked aspect of the fighting is Basra was that the Iraqi army was able to quickly reinforce a weak brigade and instantly change its tactics. The quality of a fighting force is based mainly on its ability to adapt.

The old Iraqi army was incapable of doing this. People can bray all they want about the invincible juggernaut of Iran, but in the real world the fledgling Iraqi army took on the old pros of the Qod’s Force and Hezbollah and didn’t blink.

This is a hugely encouraging sign.  For the good guys, not the defeato-leftists.

You do understand Maliki is a Shi’ite.

US Vice President Dick Cheney during a surprise visit to Baghdad today strongly urged Washington’s Arab allies, like Saudi Arabia, to send envoys to Iraq, as a key step toward curbing Iranian influence.

His visit was seen as Tehran’s rising influence over the Shiite government of Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki at a time when Iraq is fighting to curb a Shiite-Sunni sectarian strife that has left tens of thousands of people killed.

You do know when this falls apart? Well they are Sunni.

A series of bomb blasts greeted Mr Cheney’s high-security and secrecy-shrouded arrival, underscoring the deadly violence that still grips the nation five years after US bombs began dropping on Baghdad to topple Saddam Hussein.

The vice president’s 11-vehicle motorcade, at times escorted by heavily armed Humvees with machine gunners scanning the urban landscape and overflown by Apache helicopters, took him to meet Mr Talabani and his deputies Adel Abdel Mahdi and Tareq al-Hashemi at his home.

You need a quote for that? It’s just gets so boring. Sunni are not Shi’ite , Shi’ite are not AQ, The leadership of Iraq is Shi’ite , Shi’ite have ties to Iran. blah blah blah.

Give the whole lot to Iran, I give up. Jeez you guys have no idea what you are doing, you are gonna kill us all.

Harry91 - 04 April 2008 08:52 PM

Jen, Iran is winning this war.

How ridiculous!
Of course, they’re not winning this war.
And not only that, but they’re expending lots of blood and treasure trying to fight us in Iraq (and before that, they used up a good deal of the force of the Hezbos trying to fight Israel in the summer of 2006).

TEHRAN, April 4 (Reuters)

You know what’s really scary Jen. the Sunni and AQ belong to the same sect.

Actually, they’re not.
Iraqi Sunnis are often Baatthists.
AQ are Waahab Sunni.
Big difference.

This is no longer an AQ issue this is Shi’ite vs Shi’ite both going to Iran to get a resolution.

You don’t see Maliki going to Iran, now, do you?
And you won’t, whereas Mooky has fled there for his dear life.
Meantime, Imadinnerjacket isn’t the most popular guy in Persia, either and his days as Warmonger-in-Chief may be numbered.
Basra is pretty much Iran’s last stand in Iraq.

...GWB attacking the wrong country. I swear you can’t make this crap up.

GWB didn’t attack the “wrong country.”
We got 2 birds with one stone: as I said above, we’re fighting Iran now through the proxy of Mooky Al-Sadr.
And President Reagan didn’t “arm” the Iranians!
(The Russians did.)
Puh-leaze!
But I’ll give you Clinton and Carter creating a large part of the Middle East mess.

Harry91 - 04 April 2008 09:27 PM

The leadership of Iraq is Shi’ite

Which is what makes his determination to fight the Sadr militia that much more significant.
Tehran thought he would back them and he didn’t.

Shi’ite have ties to Iran.

Give the whole lot to Iran, I give up. Jeez you guys have no idea what you are doing, you are gonna kill us all.

Best to look in the mirror when you’re saying this.
Only one of us knows what we’re doing and it ain’t you.
And only one of us has ideas that will lead to getting us all killed and it ain’t me and my like-minded friends.

skipsailing - 04 April 2008 06:48 PM
What an embarassement Ms Pelosi has become. I can just imagine her during WW2.  “Why are we in Northern Africa? How is fighting there helping is in the real war against the axis, in Germany?”

she is just such a moron. The people who elect here should hang there heads in shame.

Skip, the Germans were in North Africa.

Does Erwin Johannes Eugen Rommel ring a bell. Do you just make stuff up.

Hey, Harry91, I think that skipsailing’s remarks were making that point.

Harry91 - 04 April 2008 08:33 PM

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Ayman al-Zawahiri rules our world yay. Who gives a flying f^%&^ what this guy thinks. Who actually takes the guy seriously and avoids sending a missle up his ass.

Republicans.

He’s just a fountain of fun.

You justify the mess that is Iraq with Ayman al-Zawahiri. I’m glad though that you guys agree.

Not as big a mess as your mind Harry. Is it really necessary to post your IQ next to your name?

You need a quote for that? It’s just gets so boring. Sunni are not Shi’ite , Shi’ite are not AQ, The leadership of Iraq is Shi’ite , Shi’ite have ties to Iran. blah blah blah.

Give the whole lot to Iran, I give up. Jeez you guys have no idea what you are doing, you are gonna kill us all.

What a bizarre non sequitur of a post! Who said anything about Shi’ites being al Qaeda?

If the Shi’ite Iraqi government loves Iran so much, why is it sending Iraqi special operations forces into Sadr City to kill Iranian-backed Shi’ite militiamen by the dozen?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3tMDhVu-f2Q

Why are Iraqi troops continuing to capture and kill Shi’ite terrorists to this day, despite al Sadr’s self-imposed truce?

But I love the screechy wail of panic at the end of your post. It reminds me of the scene in Aliens in which the cowardly, forever bitching Bill Paxton has given up and is whining “Game over, man! Game over!”

Have someone loan your their spine, for God’s sake. Or get out of the way and let real men and women win this war so you can huddle in the fetal position and cry in complete safety.

HarryIQ91

You do understand Maliki is a Shi’ite.

Yes, a Shiite who has spoken glowingly of the debt his country owes to America.

His visit was seen as Tehran’s rising influence over the Shiite government of Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki at a time when Iraq is fighting to curb a Shiite-Sunni sectarian strife that has left tens of thousands of people killed. You do know when this falls apart? Well they are Sunni.

Was seen by whom? Leftist propagandists? Saddam killed an average of 25,000 innocents per year during his 24 years of terror and another million died in his wars and you leftists raised not a finger to stop him. So stop using dead Iraqis -killed by Islamic extremists-to justify your anti-American pacifist moronism.

A series of bomb blasts greeted Mr Cheney’s high-security and secrecy-shrouded arrival, underscoring the deadly violence that still grips the nation five years after US bombs began dropping on Baghdad to topple Saddam Hussein.

Soon after his arrival, three explosions rocked Baghdad, including a car bombing in the central neighbourhood of Karada that killed three people.

I give up.

Then you won’t be posting here anymore, right?

Terry Gain - 04 April 2008 11:06 PM

HarryIQ91

You do understand Maliki is a Shi’ite.

Yes, a Shiite who has spoken glowingly of the debt his country owes to America.

His visit was seen as Tehran’s rising influence over the Shiite government of Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki at a time when Iraq is fighting to curb a Shiite-Sunni sectarian strife that has left tens of thousands of people killed. You do know when this falls apart? Well they are Sunni.

Was seen by whom? Leftist propagandists? Saddam killed an average of 25,000 innocents per year during his 24 years of terror and another million died in his wars and you leftists raised not a finger to stop him. So stop using dead Iraqis -killed by Islamic extremists-to justify your anti-American pacifist moronism.

A series of bomb blasts greeted Mr Cheney’s high-security and secrecy-shrouded arrival, underscoring the deadly violence that still grips the nation five years after US bombs began dropping on Baghdad to topple Saddam Hussein.

Soon after his arrival, three explosions rocked Baghdad, including a car bombing in the central neighbourhood of Karada that killed three people.

While these bomb blasts impress people like you who want to quit regardless of the fact there will be many many more and more lethal bomb blasts if America leaves before the job is finished, they will not determine the end result in Iraq -which is becoming clearer by the day.

You need a quote for that? It’s just gets so boring. Sunni are not Shi’ite , Shi’ite are not AQ, The leadership of Iraq is Shi’ite , Shi’ite have ties to Iran. blah blah blah.

No the Shiite are not Sunni and the Democrats (alas) are not Republicans, but the differences between the first pair may not be as great (alas) as the differences between the second pair.

Give the whole lot to Iran,

Yes we know. That’s what you propose. But you forgot al Qaeda. So more precisely, it’s: “I Harry, IQ91, propose we abandon Iraq to Iran and al Qaeda even as the Shiite dominated government of Iraq is fighting the Iran backed Shiite militias. (Gawd Harry IQ91, are you ever effing confused).

I give up.

No kidding. Please do. Please go back to Kos.

Jeez you guys have no idea what you are doing, you are gonna kill us all.

Yes HarryIQ91. No idea at all. Abandon Iraq to Iran and al Qaeda. That will make us safer for sure. My Harry, you must have used every one of your 91 IQ points on that brilliant post.

Whoever gave this goofball Harry 91 IQ points sure is being generous. I couldn’t help but laugh out loud at his intellectually vacant dribble.

It’s great to see Malaki going after the Sadr army. Just a little clean up after the war was won.

Skip, the Germans were in North Africa.

Does Erwin Johannes Eugen Rommel ring a bell. Do you just make stuff up.

My goodness Harry but you are dolt. As Olainfree has stated, you simply supported my point. We are fighting in Iraq becuase our enemy is there.

You really do come off as a defeatist loser here Harry. How do you live with yourself? You can live on your knees harry, the rest of us chose to stand on our feet.  And listen, while you are on your knees begging for mercy, why don’t you just kiss my *ss?

Capitalist Infidel - 05 April 2008 08:54 AM

Whoever gave this goofball Harry 91 IQ points sure is being generous. I couldn’t help but laugh out loud at his intellectually vacant dribble.

It’s great to see Malaki going after the Sadr army. Just a little clean up after the war was won.

Yeah vacant.

Iraq to halt raids on Shiite Muslim gangs

http://www.latimes.com/news/printedition/asection/la-fg-iraq5apr05,1,3755429.story

BAGHDAD—Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri Maliki on Friday declared a halt to raids on armed Shiite Muslim gangs in Baghdad and southern Iraq, just a day after announcing his intent to carry out operations in districts of the capital that are under de facto control of a key Shiite cleric’s militia.

skipsailing - 05 April 2008 09:23 AM

Skip, the Germans were in North Africa.

Does Erwin Johannes Eugen Rommel ring a bell. Do you just make stuff up.

My goodness Harry but you are dolt. As Olainfree has stated, you simply supported my point. We are fighting in Iraq becuase our enemy is there.

You really do come off as a defeatist loser here Harry. How do you live with yourself? You can live on your knees harry, the rest of us chose to stand on our feet.  And listen, while you are on your knees begging for mercy, why don’t you just kiss my *ss?

No Skip your statement is stupid. AQ were not in Iraq until we went there. To make your statement even make a lick of sense we would have had to have invaded NA and waited for the germans to come.

Harry91 - 05 April 2008 09:37 AM

AQ were not in Iraq until we went there. To make your statement even make a lick of sense we would have had to have invaded NA and waited for the germans to come.

Your scenario leaves off one event:  The part where the Germans had already attacked the US mainland.  That’s when it makes sense to invade NA and fight them there.