This is another of the PL posts that raises alarms. Within the McPeak quote is the following (with my italicization):
Let’s say that one of your abiding concerns is the security of Israel as opposed to a purely American self-interest, then it would make sense to build a dozen or so bases in Iraq.
And that would be exactly where we are now with Mac saying we’ll be there for a hundred years. But then of course, he’s had to back away from that, but still compares Iraq to Germany and SKorea where we’ve had bases for more than half a century. Mac’s gonna have to back yet further if he’s to get my vote.
This is another of the PL posts that raises alarms. Within the McPeak quote is the following (with my italicization):
Let’s say that one of your abiding concerns is the security of Israel as opposed to a purely American self-interest, then it would make sense to build a dozen or so bases in Iraq.
And that would be exactly where we are now with Mac saying we’ll be there for a hundred years. But then of course, he’s had to back away from that, but still compares Iraq to Germany and SKorea where we’ve had bases for more than half a century. Mac’s gonna have to back yet further if he’s to get my vote.
You don’t think we have any legitimate national interest in the Middle East that would allow for basing troops?
What still amazes me is the % of American Jews who vote Democrat? I believe it’s over 90% and even if it’s as low as 50% (highly unlikely) why would a group support a candidate that does not give a rip about their homeland? Oh, you can argue whose land it is but the Muslims sure don’t want the Jews there; they want the Jews totally gone and yet the so-called American Jews are preventing the peace (piece?)process. The Palestinians had control of that land for over 1600 years and didn’t do a darn thing with it - Jews moved in, within 10 years turned it into productive territory. Now the Palestinians want it back - problem is when the Palestinians had Gaza handed to them, they destroyed every Jewish house, all the Jewish businesses (which would have been income for them) and still want all the Jews dead. There will be no peace until the “piece” attitude in the ME is stopped.
When the west keeps giving them money in the hopes they can buy peace, they’re smoking something. Until,as Golda Meir said, the Palestinians value life more than death, there will be no peace.
Frankly, this is a very sick culture and one horrible way to raise kids.
The American left is so irresponsible, control driven, and pacifist, it makes me ill and I do fear for my kids and grandkids. Obama simply has no clue what he’s stepping into or if he does, woe to all of us, including those of you who want to vote for him.
Who constitutes this “pernicious element,” found even in Oregon, that clothes its radicalism in “religous garments” to “make[] it harder to attack”?
Plenty of strange elements in the Willamette Valley but none currently clothed in religious garments that I can tell.
Maybe McPeak harkens back to the Bhagwan Shree Rajneesh, Ma Anand Sheila and Rajneesh Puram. Sheila and her minions used to be regulars at the Multnomah County Courthouse. Plenty of religious garb there. Even in 2003, the Bhagwan was old news.
This is another of the PL posts that raises alarms. Within the McPeak quote is the following (with my italicization):
Let’s say that one of your abiding concerns is the security of Israel as opposed to a purely American self-interest, then it would make sense to build a dozen or so bases in Iraq.
And that would be exactly where we are now with Mac saying we’ll be there for a hundred years. But then of course, he’s had to back away from that, but still compares Iraq to Germany and SKorea where we’ve had bases for more than half a century. Mac’s gonna have to back yet further if he’s to get my vote.
You don’t think we have any legitimate national interest in the Middle East that would allow for basing troops?
I mean if you have to have bases in the middle east why not have them in Iraq? Unless Che Obama can think of somewhere else.
Why do so many Jewish voters identify with the party least likely to support Israel? Odd as it seems, there is such a thing as Jewish anti-semitism. Karl Marx comes to mind. McPeak seems to want a solution to the Israel “problem,” but with Obama and McPeak at the helm, it may be the *ultimate solution.”
Perhaps no other single officer did more to disrupt the US Air Force than Gen. McPeak did during his tenure as Chief of Staff. From clownish uniforms changes to wholesale destruction of legendary commands and units, McPeak’s legacy is one bitterly recalled by many of us who served in and revere the US Air Force.
The fact that Tony McPeak is advising Barack Obama is just one more (very good) reason not to vote for him.
Obama definitely would be easier to beat than Hillary, especially after the Rev Jeremiah Wright flap, which arose AFTER Obama already had garnered his delegates.
Conservatives should root for Obama. (Of course, the ideal scenario is for Obama to get the nomination only after a long & protracted fight extending all the way to the Convention floor.)
Here is some recent info from Votemaster. It is a liberal/Dem leaning site, but it has excellent data which it converts into easy-to-read charts. The current tally of electoral votes, based on state polls (& I suspect some history) is:
Clinton 273 Electoral Votes, McCain 221, Too Close to Call 44. Clinton up by 52 EVs.
McCain 296 Electoral Votes, Obama 218, Too Close to Call 24. McCain up by 78 EVs.
Florida (27 EVs) is one of the states that swings. When Clinton is the Dem nominee, Florida goes Democrat. When Obama is the Dem nominee, Florida goes GOP (in part, I suspect, because Jewish-American voters perceive Obama’s mid-east policy as anti-Israel).
Here is the URL for the Clinton-McCain electoral vote map:
Perhaps no other single officer did more to disrupt the US Air Force than Gen. McPeak did during his tenure as Chief of Staff. From clownish uniforms changes to wholesale destruction of legendary commands and units, McPeak’s legacy is one bitterly recalled by many of us who served in and revere the US Air Force.
The fact that Tony McPeak is advising Barack Obama is just one more (very good) reason not to vote for him.
Murph, you hit the nail on the head. I was SAC warrior when this clown was in charge, until I became an ACC warrior ("ACK barf, comrade!!” as Bill the cat would say). Instead of finding a decent blue nomex flight suit for the missileers, he had to reinvent the wheel with a flammable polyester jumpsuit that was hot in the summer and cold in the winter. Brilliant!! One Wesley Clarke was one too many. We don’t need another SecDef wannabe.
Perhaps no other single officer did more to disrupt the US Air Force than Gen. McPeak did during his tenure as Chief of Staff. From clownish uniforms changes to wholesale destruction of legendary commands and units, McPeak’s legacy is one bitterly recalled by many of us who served in and revere the US Air Force.
The fact that Tony McPeak is advising Barack Obama is just one more (very good) reason not to vote for him.
Thank you Murph. I was hoping somebody else would remember what McPeak did to the US Air Force.
I’ll chime-in with thoughts on Gen McPeak’s tenure as the USAF Chief of Staff. He was by far the most memorable COS in my 24 years. Every time I spoke his name it was always, and I quote, “Gen McPeak, that son-of-a-bitch.” I loathed the man, as did every other missileer and most everybody else I was acquainted with. Besides killing SAC and dismembering other storied units, and expending enormous energy on ridiculous uniform changes, the thing I most remember him for is his replacing all Regulations with vague “Instructions,” which contained negligible useful knowledge. In some career fields that may have been a good idea, but in mine (nuclear operations) it was an absolutely messed-up-beyond-all-belief idea. (For several years afterwards we kept the old SAC Regs hidden and waited for the clown to leave, but in the meantime, much of the knowledge gleaned in the previous umpteen years atrophied and had to be re-learned.) The second most memorable CoS to me was Gen Fogelman because he worked hard to overturn many of McPeak’s (TSOB) more galling decisions.
It is with perverse satisfaction that I know he’s with Sen Obama because he serves as a perfect “reverse barometer.”
I think Jews (and the rest of America) is right to be concerned about the people Obama surrounds himself with. McPeak seems like he fits this pattern with his Miami/New York comment.
At the same time, it’s worth sitting back before assuming too much. McPeak’s comments on Oregon’s local religious extremists was not directed at Christians. From context and news at that time, he’s referring to local Muslims who attempted treason in Afghanistan and were sent to federal prison.
There have been numerous articles written about Obama, his supporters and advisors and their lack of support, and even dislike of Israel. Anyone who thinks that Obama is going to support Israel is a fool.
