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What worries me most, is that General McPeak said someting that I might agree with.  After watching what he did to the Air Force as Chief of Staff in the early 90s, I am not surprised at most of the bizarre things he says.  Anybody that hires him as an adviser is automatically disqualified in my opinion from being president based on lack of judgement.

luthien - 24 March 2008 12:01 AM

DeeperThought - 23 March 2008 11:53 PM

jvf - 23 March 2008 10:37 PM

Even if McCain meant “100 years” in the context of Korea,
Germany etc., it’s not a comparison he ought to be making. 

Why not?  Having a garrison there makes perfect sense.

Because most voters won’t equate “Iraq” with “garrison.” They’ll think McCain means 100 more years of fighting an expensive and deadly war in Iraq against the terrorists.

You are assuming that the public is stupid enough to be led around, as they have so frequently, by the Democrats and the media (but I repeat myself).  In the seventies through the nineties, you would probably be correct, but I hope the continued growth of alternate media, such as the internet, will change that.

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jvf - 24 March 2008 08:36 AM

RobLA.Ca - 24 March 2008 03:45 AM

Democrats are dishonest, undeserving and think they can get away with being just plain stupid. They are the party of perpetual fraud.

“weeks, not months”

“the Iraq war will pay for itself”

“I truly believe we will be greeted as liberators”

there’s your fraud for you.  and it doesn’t have a D attached to it.

You left one out-the one where the President who started his war of choice without UN approval said our troops would be home “by Christmas”. He just didn’t say which one.

That fraud DID have a D attached to him. He also said Iraq had WMDs, and claimed that they were working with al Qaeda. All some 10 years ago, before recorded history began on your planet.

OldeDog - 24 March 2008 05:19 PM

luthien - 24 March 2008 12:01 AM

DeeperThought - 23 March 2008 11:53 PM

jvf - 23 March 2008 10:37 PM

Even if McCain meant “100 years” in the context of Korea,
Germany etc., it’s not a comparison he ought to be making. 

Why not?  Having a garrison there makes perfect sense.

Because most voters won’t equate “Iraq” with “garrison.” They’ll think McCain means 100 more years of fighting an expensive and deadly war in Iraq against the terrorists.

You are assuming that the public is stupid enough to be led around, as they have so frequently, by the Democrats and the media (but I repeat myself).  In the seventies through the nineties, you would probably be correct, but I hope the continued growth of alternate media, such as the internet, will change that.

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I’m assuming nothing.  Most people still get a large portion of their news and information from the mainstream media; those who access alternative sources are divided between left and right ones, with the former holding the lead.  How many stories have you read in your local paper or seen on your local evening news that explained SOF agreements or even reported McCain’s remarks in full?  Do ya think Obama and the other Democrats out on the campaign trail will enlighten voters, or snip the “100 more years in Iraq” to beat John Boy over the head with it? 

This has the potential to become a lodestone around his neck similar to the meme that Bush tried to tie Saddam to bin Laden and 9/11.  That wasn’t what was said, but how many people in America do ya think are familiar with the president’s actual quotes and facts?

luthien - 25 March 2008 09:36 AM

. . . This has the potential to become a lodestone around his neck similar to the meme that Bush tried to tie Saddam to bin Laden and 9/11.  That wasn’t what was said, but how many people in America do ya think are familiar with the president’s actual quotes and facts?

I fear you may be right, Luthien.  As I said earlier, it will be up to John McCain and his people to turn this lodestone into David’s rock.  At some point he should say,

“If my opponent thinks he can fool the American people into thinking that I want to fight in Iraq for 100 years, then he’s a bigger fool than they are.  I said I’ve got no problem maintaining a presence in Iraq, once we have pacified the place, just as we do in Germany, Japan, Korea and a dozen other places.  It will be to our advantage to do so, and it will work for the stability of the Middle East as well.

“As Abe Lincoln said, ‘You can fool some of the people all of the time, and all of the people some of the time, but you can not fool all of the people all of the time.’ I know what I said, and the American people know what I said, and if my opponent thinks otherwise, then with all due respect, he’s a bigger damn fool than I thought.”

Something like that will get the media’s attention.

/Mr Lynn

Mr Lynn - 24 March 2008 03:03 PM

It wasn’t an error.  But maybe understanding his statement requires more reasoning capability than the Democrats, the MSM, and James23 are willing, or able, to display.
/Mr Lynn

C’mon Mr Lynn! If you’re going to do insults, at least try to make them funny.

Mr Lynn - 25 March 2008 10:47 AM

luthien - 25 March 2008 09:36 AM

. . . This has the potential to become a lodestone around his neck similar to the meme that Bush tried to tie Saddam to bin Laden and 9/11.  That wasn’t what was said, but how many people in America do ya think are familiar with the president’s actual quotes and facts?

I fear you may be right, Luthien.  As I said earlier, it will be up to John McCain and his people to turn this lodestone into David’s rock.  At some point he should say,

“If my opponent thinks he can fool the American people into thinking that I want to fight in Iraq for 100 years, then he’s a bigger fool than they are.  I said I’ve got no problem maintaining a presence in Iraq, once we have pacified the place, just as we do in Germany, Japan, Korea and a dozen other places.  It will be to our advantage to do so, and it will work for the stability of the Middle East as well.

“As Abe Lincoln said, ‘You can fool some of the people all of the time, and all of the people some of the time, but you can not fool all of the people all of the time.’ I know what I said, and the American people know what I said, and if my opponent thinks otherwise, then with all due respect, he’s a bigger damn fool than I thought.”

Something like that will get the media’s attention.

/Mr Lynn

It might get the media’s attention, but like “100 years in Iraq,” I seriously doubt it would be reported accurately and in full:

“McCain Calls American People Fools; Flip-Flops On 100 Years In Iraq Statement” will be more like it.  Now, if he were to blow a gasket, throw a tantrum, go off on one of his whacko fits,

“You’re all filthy liars!  I said no such thing! 
How dare you say that I did!  Don’t you understand,
I’m John McCain, war hero, and it’s my turn, MY TURN,
to be president because I’m John McCain and you’re not!”,

now that would hit the front pages of every paper in the country and be the lead-in story on the evening news.  But anything that makes him appear rational and might appeal to voters will be buried in Section D, page 92, if it would be reported at all. 

However, according to McCain himself, such speeches will not happen.  He has stated repeatedly that he intends to debate the issues and will not engage in personal attacks against his Democratic opponent.  He’s even said that Hillary would make a good president, so it would be difficult for him to retract those remarks without raising charges of flip-flopping. 

Foot + mouth = John McCain

RobLA.Ca - 24 March 2008 03:45 AM

Democrats are dishonest, undeserving and think they can get away with being just plain stupid. They are the party of perpetual fraud.

And there is not a dimes worth of difference between the Democrats and the Republican party, both are made of the stuff you would scrap off your shoes on the way into the house, from the barnyard.