More dishonesty from Powerline, this time it’s almost funny. They say he “slandered” his grandmother. Nobody with more than two brain cells who listened to that speech believes he “slandered” his grandmother. The right-wing cave dwellers are eagerly making things up, but that doesn’t make them true.
Hinderaker asserts that Obama says that his grandma
views others of different races with fear and suspicion.
That is NOT what Obama says; listen to the audio clip.
Typical Lefty, you misunderstand everything. Still, you are correct; he doesn’t say what John H. says he said. But given what Obama has said about her on previous occasions, the implication is certainly there.
Here’s a potentially useful experiment: the next time you go to a party, say in a loud voice “Typical Jew,” or “Typical Mexican,” or Typical Woman.”
Obama (i.e. Barrack Hussein Obama) wants it both ways. He wants to be the establishment candidate but he wants to keep his insurgent friends, particularly the Rev. Wright. The more he tries to remove the tar from himself the more he covers himself with it. He tried to hide his elite education from the congregation of the Trinity Church, because if he made an issue of it, they would think him to be an “oreo”. The truth is, Obama has little in common with his fellow parishoners, other than using their backs to climb the election ladder. His remark about his “typical white person” grandmother shows where his soul is located. Unless he truly “comes clean” he is going to continue to sink. Mme. Hilary is doing the same with a church she attended in Harlem. The minister there lectured on the evils of white women with “54 double-D” chest sizes. Whatever happended to ministers’ homilies on the writings of Matthew, Mark, Luke and John. Or, general moral standards?
More dishonesty from Powerline, this time it’s almost funny. They say he “slandered” his grandmother. Nobody with more than two brain cells who listened to that speech believes he “slandered” his grandmother. The right-wing cave dwellers are eagerly making things up, but that doesn’t make them true.
I tried to find an argument somewhere in there to respond to, but no luck. I guess you’re just venting, Vlad.
Maybe you missed our posts “Throwing Grandma Under the Bus” and “Throwing Grandma Under the Bus, part II.”
Here’s a potentially useful experiment: the next time you go to a party, say in a loud voice “Typical Jew,”
I’d come over. I consider myself a typical Jew (except for my politics - but you’ll see the rest following me in the not-too-distant future). I also consider myself to be a typical American, and would respond to that call.
I’m not saying that I consider myself to be the average Jew or the average American (I certainly don’t) but I share enough of the common sensibilities to fall squarely within those categories. And I’m extremely proud to be identified as both.
I tried to find an argument somewhere in there to respond to, but no luck.
Really? You said Obama “slandered” his grandmother. I said Obama didn’t slander his grandmother. Here’s what he said:
I can no more disown him than I can disown the black community. I can no more disown him than I can disown my white grandmother, a woman who helped raise me, a woman who sacrificed again and again for me, a woman who loves me as much as she loves anything in this world, but a woman who once confessed her fear of black men who passed her by on the street, and who on more than one occasion has uttered racial or ethnic stereotypes that made me cringe.
These people are a part of me. And they are part of America, this country that I love.
Here’s the argument: Nothing in that is a “slander.” The closest thing I can dream up is “on more than one occasion has uttered things that make me cringe.” If that’s slandering your grandma, we’re all in trouble.
Though I disagree with the approach either way, it is more acceptable for the powerless to make broad-brush generalizations about the powerful than the other way around.
More dishonesty from Powerline, this time it’s almost funny. They say he “slandered” his grandmother. Nobody with more than two brain cells who listened to that speech believes he “slandered” his grandmother. The right-wing cave dwellers are eagerly making things up, but that doesn’t make them true.
Comparing her to Wright is a slander, unless you think Wright was right. Maybe you do.
Now this inbred racist woman is the “typical white person.” Oblama is digging deeper. The more he lectures white people about their racism, the more he’s going to be seen as just another Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton, with a little cream added.
By the way, I have Dunham ancestors who go back to Virginia, just like Oblama! We may be related! I think that gives me special authority to condemn my kinsman.
I tried to find an argument somewhere in there to respond to, but no luck.
Really? You said Obama “slandered” his grandmother. I said Obama didn’t slander his grandmother. Here’s what he said:
I can no more disown him than I can disown the black community. I can no more disown him than I can disown my white grandmother, a woman who helped raise me, a woman who sacrificed again and again for me, a woman who loves me as much as she loves anything in this world, but a woman who once confessed her fear of black men who passed her by on the street, and who on more than one occasion has uttered racial or ethnic stereotypes that made me cringe.
These people are a part of me. And they are part of America, this country that I love.
Here’s the argument: Nothing in that is a “slander.” The closest thing I can dream up is “on more than one occasion has uttered things that make me cringe.” If that’s slandering your grandma, we’re all in trouble.
“Slander” is perhaps too strong a word, because it has a specific legal meaning that isn’t satisfied here. The word I use is “smeared”, and smear her he does. The smear is that he is comparing his grandmother to Wright. He is saying that his not disowning Wright is equivalent to his not disowning his grandmother. That’s a smear, because it implies that his grandmother was a white supremacist (otherwise it wouldn’t be good comparison). Actually, though, as has been pointed out, the two wouldn’t be equivalent even if Obama’s grandmother were a white supremacist. The main reason being, Wright is someone whom he met as an adult and chose to befriend, unlike his grandmother who was family and raised him as a small child.
Let’s get back to the “typical white woman” comment that this thread is supposed to be about. Memo to Barack: You already have the black vote. You can stop courting them now. Time to think about whitey.
Though I disagree with the approach either way, it is more acceptable for the powerless to make broad-brush generalizations about the powerful than the other way around.
Get used to it.
Not for the whites (most of whom are not “powerful") who make up a far larger percentage of the country than blacks. Whites are not going to vote for a black man making “broad-brush generalizations” about them, who won’t disassociate from his viciously racist, ignorant black minister. You’d better get used to that. Oblama and his supporters on television (mostly black, I’ve noticed) are torpedoing his presidential ambitions.
What Obama failed to point out in his explanation of his grandma being a typical white person was the story he writes in his book about his grandma being harassed and nearly mugged by a black homeless person at a bus stop. THAT is what her fear was based on.
