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McCain’s CPAC speech
Posted: 08 February 2008 07:30 PM   [ Ignore ]  [ # 46 ]

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When did it become ok to pretend Marines die in battle for one party over another?

McCain and the rest of the GOP on the Hill already sold them out voting for benchmarks.  It was W who dug his heels in.

I am not desperate, I am not dishonest,I dont think America will self-destruct in four years, I am not gullible, I am not afraid. Why should I settle for John McCain?

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Posted: 08 February 2008 07:41 PM   [ Ignore ]  [ # 47 ]  
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Pandora - 08 February 2008 07:02 PM

Bunch of spoiled power junkies who care about nothing except what they want, and you will hold your breath and turn blue until Mommy gives it to you.

OldeDog, that sounds terrible indeed. 

Do tell what exactly the “spoiled power junkies” want?  I’m sure it’s quite frivolous.

I am sure if you can’t read the whole previous post, reposting would be a waste of my time.

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Posted: 08 February 2008 07:58 PM   [ Ignore ]  [ # 48 ]

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OldeDog - 08 February 2008 07:41 PM

Pandora - 08 February 2008 07:02 PM
Bunch of spoiled power junkies who care about nothing except what they want, and you will hold your breath and turn blue until Mommy gives it to you.

OldeDog, that sounds terrible indeed. 

Do tell what exactly the “spoiled power junkies” want?  I’m sure it’s quite frivolous.

I am sure if you can’t read the whole previous post, reposting would be a waste of my time.

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No, wouldn’t want you to waste your time, although I can, and have, read ‘the whole previous post’.

It’s apparently a list of the horrible effects of Clinton or Obama gaining the White House.

You failed to include there, however, a list of what the “spoiled power junkies” want that you hold them in such disregard.

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Posted: 08 February 2008 08:23 PM   [ Ignore ]  [ # 49 ]

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Pandora - 08 February 2008 07:58 PM

No, wouldn’t want you to waste your time, although I can, and have, read ‘the whole previous post’.

It’s apparently a list of the horrible effects of Clinton or Obama gaining the White House.

You failed to include there, however, a list of what the “spoiled power junkies” want that you hold them in such disregard.

Luthien’s ‘spoiled power junkie’ wish list:

a conservative candidate for President

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Posted: 08 February 2008 08:54 PM   [ Ignore ]  [ # 50 ]

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Did anyone catch McCain’s brief comment about Supreme Court Justices--that he would appoint justices who “take as their sole responsibility the enforcement of laws made by the people’s elected representatives”?

It appears that the Man Who Would Be President does not understand the roles of the three branches of American government. Enforcement of the laws is the job of the executive branch (president, agencies, DOJ, etc.).  The Court’s job is to ensure that the laws passed by Congress do not violate the people’s constitutional rights, and occasionally to interpret laws when Congress has, either intentionally or unintentionally, written ambiguous laws.

And won’t it be great for McCain when he is holding hands with Democrat majorities in the House and Senate, signing legislation (comprehensive immigration reform, cap and trade and other environmental nonsense, etc.) they pass that furthers their, not the conservative, agenda? He will, of course, be looking for justices who will essentially “rubber stamp” the laws he and the Dems in Congress have passed.

 
 
Posted: 08 February 2008 09:10 PM   [ Ignore ]  [ # 51 ]

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Did anyone catch McCain’s brief comment in his CPAC speech about Supreme Court Justices—that he would appoint justices who “take as their sole responsibility the enforcement of laws made by the people’s elected representatives”?

It appears that the Man Who Would Be President does not understand the roles of the three branches of American government. Enforcement of the laws is the job of the executive branch (president, agencies, DOJ, etc.).  The Court’s job is to ensure that the laws “made by the people’s elected representatives” (that is, Congress, usually with presidential approval) do not violate the people’s constitutional rights or otherwise violate the Constitution, and occasionally to interpret laws when Congress has written ambiguous ones.

And won’t it be great for McCain when he is holding hands with Democrat majorities in the House and Senate, signing legislation (comprehensive immigration reform, cap and trade and other environmental nonsense, etc.) they pass that furthers their liberal agenda rather than a conservative agenda? He will, no doubt, be looking for justices who will essentially “rubber stamp” the laws he and the Dems in Congress have passed.

 
 
Posted: 08 February 2008 09:48 PM   [ Ignore ]  [ # 52 ]

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apteacher - 08 February 2008 09:10 PM

Did anyone catch McCain’s brief comment in his CPAC speech about Supreme Court Justices—that he would appoint justices who “take as their sole responsibility the enforcement of laws made by the people’s elected representatives”?

It appears that the Man Who Would Be President does not understand the roles of the three branches of American government.

First, you have no link to the “quote.”
Secondly, he obviously mispoke.
He clearly meant to say that he wants judges who don’t legislate from the bench, as Liberal judges are so wont to do.

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nd won’t it be great for McCain when he is holding hands with Democrat majorities in the House and Senate, signing legislation (comprehensive immigration reform, cap and trade and other environmental nonsense, etc.) they pass that furthers their liberal agenda rather than a conservative agenda?

McCain doesn’t have a Liberal agenda.
And must we assume that the DhimmicRats will keep their majorities in both Houses?

He will, no doubt, be looking for justices who will essentially “rubber stamp” the laws he and the Dems in Congress have passed.

This is pure cynical speculation.
There is no reason to assume that a President McCain would do this, but almost no doubt that a President Billary or a President Obama would.
We can only hope that you teach your AP students to do better than the stinking thinking you’ve exhibited here.

 
 
Posted: 08 February 2008 10:10 PM   [ Ignore ]  [ # 53 ]

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I do know one thing and that is that John McCain is the only Presidential candidate I have ever known who has the integrity and the cojones to go into Iowa and tell them he knows the ethanol program to be a waste and that he is against it. I am a farmer and have personally benefited by a couple of million dollars over the last few years just from the incredible boom in farmland values that is occuring due to the misbegotten ethanol program. While I benefit personally I am disgusted by the waste and prevarication that has allowed the taxpayers to be played for such suckers.
For Mr. McCain to go into Iowa and tell those farmers that he knows the game is rigged in their favor was amazing to me and this alone gets my respect. I do not agree on all of Seanator McCains positions but then I’m not looking for an echo, I’m looking for a leader and in my book he has demonstrated this.

 
 
Posted: 08 February 2008 10:28 PM   [ Ignore ]  [ # 54 ]

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Another lost soul - 08 February 2008 10:10 PM

I do know one thing and that is that John McCain is the only Presidential candidate I have ever known who has the integrity and the cojones to go into Iowa and tell them he knows the ethanol program to be a waste and that he is against it. I am a farmer and have personally benefited by a couple of million dollars over the last few years just from the incredible boom in farmland values that is occuring due to the misbegotten ethanol program. While I benefit personally I am disgusted by the waste and prevarication that has allowed the taxpayers to be played for such suckers.
For Mr. McCain to go into Iowa and tell those farmers that he knows the game is rigged in their favor was amazing to me and this alone gets my respect. I do not agree on all of Seanator McCains positions but then I’m not looking for an echo, I’m looking for a leader and in my book he has demonstrated this.

Terrific first post, a.l.s.!
You’re not as “lost” as you pretend.
Welcome to PLF!

 
 
Posted: 08 February 2008 10:43 PM   [ Ignore ]  [ # 55 ]

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luthien - 08 February 2008 08:23 PM

Pandora - 08 February 2008 07:58 PM
No, wouldn’t want you to waste your time, although I can, and have, read ‘the whole previous post’.

It’s apparently a list of the horrible effects of Clinton or Obama gaining the White House.

You failed to include there, however, a list of what the “spoiled power junkies” want that you hold them in such disregard.

Luthien’s ‘spoiled power junkie’ wish list:

a conservative candidate for President

There is a saying they teach in business school, “Don’t let the perfect be the enemy of the good.” McCain is about my third or fourth choice for a candidate in this race.  But he is the most conservative candidate.  McCain has a rating from conservative groups of 60 to 80, as opposed to Obama and Clinton who score 0 to 5.

You can indeed say that McCain is not conservative enough for you, and I not only understand that, I agree, but you cannot say he is the same as Clinton or Obama.

In one particular, McCain is much better.  He will pursue the war on terror.  I just listened to a newscast where both Hillary and Obama pledged they would get all the troops out as soon as they are in office.

Is that what you want?

What happens then?  Every two bit terrorist and every third world nation trying to combat terrorism will know, for a certainty, that all you have to do is wait, and those fickle American voters will put some one in office who will dump you quicker than a cold sore, and with no more thought.

Is that what you want?

Thousands of Iraqis, probably hundreds of thousands, those who tried to make a free country and tried to ally with the US will die.

Is that what you want?

Hundreds of thousands of women will be forced to live under strict sharia law, giving up their freedom, and pieces of their bodies, because American voters could not get the perfect conservative.

Is that what you want?

If you vote for Obama or Clinton, or fail to vote for McCain, that is what you will get.

I, for one, hope you see and hear every one of those dead allies every time you here the words, “President Clinton (Obama)”.

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Posted: 08 February 2008 11:07 PM   [ Ignore ]  [ # 56 ]

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OldeDog - 08 February 2008 10:43 PM


In one particular, McCain is much better.  He will pursue the war on terror.  I just listened to a newscast where both Hillary and Obama pledged they would get all the troops out as soon as they are in office.

By the time Barack or Hillary can do anything it will be six years since the statue fell. That’s enough time for the Iraqis to get their act together. If they don’t, it means they’re just stalling.

What happens then?  Every two bit terrorist and every third world nation trying to combat terrorism will know, for a certainty, that all you have to do is wait, and those fickle American voters will put some one in office who will dump you quicker than a cold sore, and with no more thought.

By the time Barack or Hillary can do anything it will be six years since the statue fell. That’s enough time for the Iraqis to get their act together. If they don’t, it means they’re just stalling.

Thousands of Iraqis, probably hundreds of thousands, those who tried to make a free country and tried to ally with the US will die.

By the time Barack or Hillary can do anything it will be six years since the statue fell. That’s enough time for the Iraqis to get their act together. If they don’t, it means they’re just stalling.

Hundreds of thousands of women will be forced to live under strict sharia law, giving up their freedom, and pieces of their bodies, because American voters could not get the perfect conservative.

By the time Barack or Hillary can do anything it will be six years since the statue fell. That’s enough time for the Iraqis to get their act together. If they don’t, it means they’re jsut stalling.

If you vote for Obama or Clinton, or fail to vote for McCain, that is what you will get.

Yeah, like there was WMD in Iraq.

 
 
Posted: 09 February 2008 03:00 AM   [ Ignore ]  [ # 57 ]

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Patrick n ABQ - 08 February 2008 11:07 PM

Yeah, like there was WMD in Iraq.

Was this ever relevant?
We would have never known there were no WMDs unless we had invaded Iraq and toppled Saddam.
Too bad we don’t have the same safe knowledge about Iran.

If a Dhimmicrat gets into the White House, first they’ll pull out our troops, then they’ll stage “talks” with our Islamist enemies.
The IslamoFascist killers will slaughter all the American “collaborators” over there and then, they’ll come back over here.
9/11 will look like a tea party after what they’ll stage next time.
I don’t want to take that chance, thanks.
Vote GOP in November.
Vote for McCain.

 
 
Posted: 09 February 2008 05:07 AM   [ Ignore ]  [ # 58 ]  
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There is a saying they teach in business school, “Don’t let the perfect be the enemy of the good.”

Is your business school ISO certified?

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Posted: 09 February 2008 10:39 AM   [ Ignore ]  [ # 59 ]

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luthien - 08 February 2008 08:23 PM

Pandora - 08 February 2008 07:58 PM
No, wouldn’t want you to waste your time, although I can, and have, read ‘the whole previous post’.

It’s apparently a list of the horrible effects of Clinton or Obama gaining the White House.

You failed to include there, however, a list of what the “spoiled power junkies” want that you hold them in such disregard.

Luthien’s ‘spoiled power junkie’ wish list:

a conservative candidate for President

A nice wish.  That is all it is though. As people mature, they realize that not all wishes come true.

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Posted: 09 February 2008 11:11 AM   [ Ignore ]  [ # 60 ]

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JentheNeoCon - 09 February 2008 03:00 AM

Patrick n ABQ - 08 February 2008 11:07 PM
Yeah, like there was WMD in Iraq.

Was this ever relevant?
We would have never known there were no WMDs unless we had invaded Iraq and toppled Saddam.
Too bad we don’t have the same safe knowledge about Iran.

If a Dhimmicrat gets into the White House, first they’ll pull out our troops, then they’ll stage “talks” with our Islamist enemies.
The IslamoFascist killers will slaughter all the American “collaborators” over there and then, they’ll come back over here.
9/11 will look like a tea party after what they’ll stage next time.
I don’t want to take that chance, thanks.
Vote GOP in November.
Vote for McCain.

Jen, you’ve done quite an about face on McCain...but it’s hard to take anything you say seriously after your bold predictions about Giuliani and Sleepy Fred.

 
 
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