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Posted: 06 October 2007 01:41 AM   [ Ignore ]  [ # 76 ]  
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vladimir estragon - 05 October 2007 05:14 PM

AT THE TIME OF THE BEGINNING of hostilities, most Americans were FOR it, and Congress was on record as FOR it. To “discover” now, like the left apparently has, that the war is “waged for greed and not defense” (if it is for greed, specifically how is that greed being rewarded?), that it is “immoral and unamerican” is just revisionism and a desire for a “do-over”.

So nobody is ever permitted to change their minds? If you buy stock for $100 because you know it’s going to shoot through the ceiling, and now it’s selling for $1, you’re not allowed to sell it? If Jimmy Carter was elected in 1976, all those voters who switched their vote to Reagan in 1980 were being dishonest?

Once ...

You light that fuse, sonny, you had better be willing and able to live with the results.

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There ARE no “do-overs”.

AND ...

Calling the break-taking äss-kicking advance a “quagmire” just 3 weeks into the campaign is the sign of queasy, anti-military “I told you so” dweebs who have neither the stomach for a fight, nor the courage of their convictions.  Well, THE MILITARY has BOTH and once you let loose the dogs of war you had better just stand back and stay out of the way.

THE LAST THING YOU SEE BEFORE THOSE 72 VIRGINS SHOW UP

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Posted: 06 October 2007 03:58 AM   [ Ignore ]  [ # 77 ]

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I don’t need links about or news of other traitors like you, thanks.
Give it a rest, Marktardo, or we’ll trace your IP, find out where you live and send out a band of patriots with some rope.

This reads like a threat and will be reported as such.

Do I have to remind you that the normal penalty for treason is death?
I shouldn’t have to talk about sending private citizens to do what our government should be doing.
You guys are all ready to trash talk the United States, our troops and our President but when you’re confronted with the punishment for such behavior you scream for me to be censored for saying it and making it clear.
The fact that you can scream your treasonous poison with impunity and the fact that President Bush has put in place no wartime censorship or enforcement of treason laws should tell you that he has infringed on absolutely none of your civil liberties and indeed, has been too generous.
What a pity (at least in this instance IMO) that Bush isn’t Hitler.

 
 
Posted: 06 October 2007 08:44 AM   [ Ignore ]  [ # 78 ]  
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I don’t need links about or news of other traitors like you, thanks.
Give it a rest, Marktardo, or we’ll trace your IP, find out where you live and send out a band of patriots with some rope.

This reads like a threat and will be reported as such.

Do I have to remind you that the normal penalty for treason is death?
I shouldn’t have to talk about sending private citizens to do what our government should be doing.
You guys are all ready to trash talk the United States, our troops and our President but when you’re confronted with the punishment for such behavior you scream for me to be censored for saying it and making it clear.
The fact that you can scream your treasonous poison with impunity and the fact that President Bush has put in place no wartime censorship or enforcement of treason laws should tell you that he has infringed on absolutely none of your civil liberties and indeed, has been too generous.
What a pity (at least in this instance IMO) that Bush isn’t Hitler.

Criticizing the government and its actions may be treason in other countries, but it is not treason here.

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Posted: 06 October 2007 12:15 PM   [ Ignore ]  [ # 79 ]

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Kdawg - 05 October 2007 03:47 PM

What you chicken sh!t bastards are afraid of a girl, now?
I’m shocked!

“Afraid of a girl”?  You seriously wrote that?

When you registered to use this forum, you had to declare that you are older than 14 years old.

You lied.

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Next, as a guest here perhaps simple good manners would induce you to keep your opinions to yourself.

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Posted: 06 October 2007 12:20 PM   [ Ignore ]  [ # 80 ]  
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Rocketman ~(Ä)~ - 06 October 2007 01:41 AM


Once ...

You light that fuse, sonny, you had better be willing and able to live with the results.

bomb_line_3.gif

There ARE no “do-overs”.

AND ...

Calling the break-taking äss-kicking advance a “quagmire” just 3 weeks into the campaign is the sign of queasy, anti-military “I told you so” dweebs who have neither the stomach for a fight, nor the courage of their convictions.  Well, THE MILITARY has BOTH and once you let loose the dogs of war you had better just stand back and stay out of the way.

THE LAST THING YOU SEE BEFORE THOSE 72 VIRGINS SHOW UP

Stated another way, kill them all and let God sort them out.

Post that macho imperialistic crap here:  http://www.sofmag.com, where you will be among friends.

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Next, as a guest here perhaps simple good manners would induce you to keep your opinions to yourself.

-skipsailing, February 1, 2008

 
 
Posted: 06 October 2007 12:36 PM   [ Ignore ]  [ # 81 ]

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F. Scott Fitzgerald - 06 October 2007 12:20 PM

Rocketman ~(Ä)~ - 06 October 2007 01:41 AM


Once ...

You light that fuse, sonny, you had better be willing and able to live with the results.

bomb_line_3.gif

There ARE no “do-overs”.

AND ...

Calling the break-taking äss-kicking advance a “quagmire” just 3 weeks into the campaign is the sign of queasy, anti-military “I told you so” dweebs who have neither the stomach for a fight, nor the courage of their convictions.  Well, THE MILITARY has BOTH and once you let loose the dogs of war you had better just stand back and stay out of the way.

THE LAST THING YOU SEE BEFORE THOSE 72 VIRGINS SHOW UP

Stated another way, kill them all and let God sort them out.

Post that macho imperialistic crap here:  http://www.sofmag.com, where you will be among friends.

Which demonstrates either your total ignorance of how the US military operates, or your total disdain for the US military.  In Iraq, the Army has taken casualties rather than kill civilians who have a terrorist hiding among them.  It has been well documented.  They try harder than any military in the history of the world to save civilian lives.  And that makes it pretty hard to fight an enemy who is totally happy to use children as human shields, or blow up innocents in order to kill one US soldier, or kill innocents just for the hell of it.  You are assigning the motives of THE ENEMY to our soldiers, and they don’t deserve it.  You should be ashamed of yourself.  And if you are not, then you can go straight to hell.

 
 
Posted: 06 October 2007 01:02 PM   [ Ignore ]  [ # 82 ]  
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Stated another way, kill them all and let God sort them out.

Post that macho imperialistic crap here:  http://www.sofmag.com, where you will be among friends.

<chuckle>

At least I’d be among others who served and would willingly do so again.  I imagine you view Blackwater, the French Foreign Legion, et al with similar disdain.  Your choice.  Just stay outa the way and let MEN do the dirty work FOR you - as usual.

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“Bye-bye, miss American pie.”

Oh, and as I watched him on the stage
My hands were clenched in fists of rage.
No angel born in Hell
Could break that Satan’s spell.
And as the flames climbed high into the night
To light the sacrificial rite,
I saw Satan laughing with delight
The day the music died.

 
 
Posted: 06 October 2007 01:04 PM   [ Ignore ]  [ # 83 ]

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Oscar, that’s just Mr Fitzgerald publically holding his manhood cheap.  He couldn’t lift that guy’s ruck and he knows it. His response is to denigrate his service because somehow he thinks that belittling others makes him “bigger”.

How sad for F scott.

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Posted: 06 October 2007 01:52 PM   [ Ignore ]  [ # 84 ]  
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Andrea in NY - 05 October 2007 11:12 PM

And how, exactly, would our soldiers interpret this?

I’m sure they’ll be all ears when those who would like to see them defeated explain how they’ve changed their minds or would really like to send a message to Bush.

Explain all you want.  It’s still disgraceful.

It’s disgraceful they were put there in the first place. Yet you still refuse to stand up for the rights of the soldiers to speak out.

Iraq is just a great money laundering scheme. Friends of Bush are getting filthy rich off the chaos. And the religous right is being cynically led by the nose by preachers like Jim Haggee, of Christians United for Israel.

 
 
Posted: 06 October 2007 01:57 PM   [ Ignore ]  [ # 85 ]  
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april - 06 October 2007 01:52 PM

Andrea in NY - 05 October 2007 11:12 PM
And how, exactly, would our soldiers interpret this?

I’m sure they’ll be all ears when those who would like to see them defeated explain how they’ve changed their minds or would really like to send a message to Bush.

Explain all you want.  It’s still disgraceful.

It’s disgraceful they were put there in the first place. Yet you still refuse to stand up for the rights of the soldiers to speak out.

Iraq is just a great money laundering scheme. Friends of Bush are getting filthy rich off the chaos. And the religous right is being cynically led by the nose by preachers like Jim Haggee, of Christians United for Israel.

She’s Baa aaaaack!

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It must be recreation time at the institution.

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Nov. 4, 2008: The Day The Music Died.

“Bye-bye, miss American pie.”

Oh, and as I watched him on the stage
My hands were clenched in fists of rage.
No angel born in Hell
Could break that Satan’s spell.
And as the flames climbed high into the night
To light the sacrificial rite,
I saw Satan laughing with delight
The day the music died.

 
 
Posted: 06 October 2007 03:03 PM   [ Ignore ]  [ # 86 ]

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I don’t need links about or news of other traitors like you, thanks.
Give it a rest, Marktardo, or we’ll trace your IP, find out where you live and send out a band of patriots with some rope.

This reads like a threat and will be reported as such.

Do I have to remind you that the normal penalty for treason is death?
I shouldn’t have to talk about sending private citizens to do what our government should be doing.
You guys are all ready to trash talk the United States, our troops and our President but when you’re confronted with the punishment for such behavior you scream for me to be censored for saying it and making it clear.
The fact that you can scream your treasonous poison with impunity and the fact that President Bush has put in place no wartime censorship or enforcement of treason laws should tell you that he has infringed on absolutely none of your civil liberties and indeed, has been too generous.
What a pity (at least in this instance IMO) that Bush isn’t Hitler.

Criticizing the government and its actions may be treason in other countries, but it is not treason here.

Aiding and abetting… or said another way, “giving aid and comfort to” our enemies, as the Democrats have, are and will continue to do, IS treason, however.

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Posted: 06 October 2007 03:14 PM   [ Ignore ]  [ # 87 ]

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I don’t need links about or news of other traitors like you, thanks.
Give it a rest, Marktardo, or we’ll trace your IP, find out where you live and send out a band of patriots with some rope.

This reads like a threat and will be reported as such.

Do I have to remind you that the normal penalty for treason is death?
I shouldn’t have to talk about sending private citizens to do what our government should be doing.
You guys are all ready to trash talk the United States, our troops and our President but when you’re confronted with the punishment for such behavior you scream for me to be censored for saying it and making it clear.
The fact that you can scream your treasonous poison with impunity and the fact that President Bush has put in place no wartime censorship or enforcement of treason laws should tell you that he has infringed on absolutely none of your civil liberties and indeed, has been too generous.
What a pity (at least in this instance IMO) that Bush isn’t Hitler.

Criticizing the government and its actions may be treason in other countries, but it is not treason here.

Aiding and abetting… or said another way, “giving aid and comfort to” our enemies, as the Democrats have, are and will continue to do, IS treason, however.

The person who has most aided and abetted the enemy is George Bush, and the blind Republicans who supported his failure to Command his Troops to ‘victory’.

Noting that the word victory has lost resonance in the Republican dialectic, victory in Iraq now means stablize Iraq. For how many billions of tax payer dollars? And you continue to make apologies for this misery........ that isn’t even fricking paid for yet, because it is off budget.

Get a clue.

Real men know when to pull out.

 
 
Posted: 06 October 2007 04:43 PM   [ Ignore ]  [ # 88 ]

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I believe that once you say, “the world would be better off if the US lost a war” you can’t call yourself a patriot and your statement to that effect is a valid and reasonable basis to question someone’s patriotism.

There’s a subtle point here. Consider the following scenario:
A: “The US would be better off if we lost this war.”
B: “Yeah, the world would be better off if the US lost this war.”

A’s statement provides no basis to question his patriotism. However, B’s statement expresses no concern for the interests of the US, but of the world. His silence about what would be good for the US provides the basis to question his patriotism.

We must be clear that though the US is a part of “the world” the interests of “the world” and the interests of the US do not necessarily coincide. If you put the interests of “the world” ahead of the interests of the US, you are no patriot. If you act accordingly, those actions are treasonous.

 
 
Posted: 06 October 2007 04:46 PM   [ Ignore ]  [ # 89 ]

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april - 06 October 2007 03:14 PM

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I don’t need links about or news of other traitors like you, thanks.
Give it a rest, Marktardo, or we’ll trace your IP, find out where you live and send out a band of patriots with some rope.

This reads like a threat and will be reported as such.

Do I have to remind you that the normal penalty for treason is death?
I shouldn’t have to talk about sending private citizens to do what our government should be doing.
You guys are all ready to trash talk the United States, our troops and our President but when you’re confronted with the punishment for such behavior you scream for me to be censored for saying it and making it clear.
The fact that you can scream your treasonous poison with impunity and the fact that President Bush has put in place no wartime censorship or enforcement of treason laws should tell you that he has infringed on absolutely none of your civil liberties and indeed, has been too generous.
What a pity (at least in this instance IMO) that Bush isn’t Hitler.

Criticizing the government and its actions may be treason in other countries, but it is not treason here.

Aiding and abetting… or said another way, “giving aid and comfort to” our enemies, as the Democrats have, are and will continue to do, IS treason, however.

The person who has most aided and abetted the enemy is George Bush, and the blind Republicans who supported his failure to Command his Troops to ‘victory’.

Noting that the word victory has lost resonance in the Republican dialectic, victory in Iraq now means stablize Iraq. For how many billions of tax payer dollars? And you continue to make apologies for this misery........ that isn’t even fricking paid for yet, because it is off budget.

Get a clue.

Real men know when to pull out.

April, take your cowardice, anti-Americanism somewhere else. You’re too ignorant for this conversation. Too amoral for any good use. For idiots like you, there’s not fight worth waging. Just lots of bitching to do. You’re useless. And there is no such thing as “a real man” on the Left. Dishonest cowards, all.

... on a related note… my guess is most men “pull out” with you. Probably sometime after the 4th drink, and before the sun rises.

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Posted: 06 October 2007 05:04 PM   [ Ignore ]  [ # 90 ]

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vladimir estragon - 05 October 2007 05:14 PM

AT THE TIME OF THE BEGINNING of hostilities, most Americans were FOR it, and Congress was on record as FOR it.  To “discover” now, like the left apparently has, that the war is “waged for greed and not defense” (if it is for greed, specifically how is that greed being rewarded?), that it is “immoral and unamerican” is just revisionism and a desire for a “do-over”.

So nobody is ever permitted to change their minds? If you buy stock for $100 because you know it’s going to shoot through the ceiling, and now it’s selling for $1, you’re not allowed to sell it? If Jimmy Carter was elected in 1976, all those voters who switched their vote to Reagan in 1980 were being dishonest?

Wrong analogy. Does not apply. Besides the “discovered reason” is still not true. The war is NOT for greed.

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