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Posted: 05 October 2007 10:25 AM   [ Ignore ]  [ # 31 ]

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It’s a moral question. Like…

If your son was a child molester, wouldn’t you still want him to lose (by getting caught)?

A lot of people feel a war waged for greed and not defense is immoral and unamerican. For this administration’s war (it’s not America’s war, most Americans are opposed to it) to have to withdraw would be a case of justice, goodness, and God prevailing.

Congratulations Marko!

You are the first MORON on here to ADMIT that you want us to lose!

Was there ever any doubt?

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Posted: 05 October 2007 10:30 AM   [ Ignore ]  [ # 32 ]

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And there’s this

http://afp.google.com/article/ALeqM5hVXmVmSgbAtmOMu2pep_FKHuNArg

Americans oppose full funding for Iraq war: poll
2 days ago

WASHINGTON (AFP) — A majority of Americans do not want to give President George W. Bush the 190-billion-dollar he has requested for wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, according to a Washington Post-ABC News poll out Tuesday.

While 27 percent said they would give a green light to the funding, a hefty 43 percent of those surveyed said they wanted the budget for those conflicts reduced sharply; and another 23 percent said they wanted the funding lowered somewhat. Three percent said no funding should be approved and three percent had no opinion, the poll found.

The survey also shed light on US voters’ discontent with Bush and Congress.

“Bush’s approval rating stands at 33 percent, equal to his career low in Post-ABC polls.

And this

http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/401957/poll_both_troop_withdrawal_plans_have.html

When they asked the participants if they favored or opposed a plan that would reduce the troop level in Iraq from about 170,000 to about 130,000 by next summer, without any troops being withdrawn before then, 66% favored the proposal, 30% were opposed and 4% had no opinion.

And on the second question which asked if they favored or opposed a plan that would withdraw most of the troops from Iraq within nine months’ time, with any of the remaining troops only being there in support rolls, 63% favored it, 34% were opposed and 3% had no opinion.

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Posted: 05 October 2007 10:31 AM   [ Ignore ]  [ # 33 ]

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MNHawk - 05 October 2007 10:25 AM

radioman - 05 October 2007 09:37 AM
Marko - 05 October 2007 09:05 AM
It’s a moral question. Like…

If your son was a child molester, wouldn’t you still want him to lose (by getting caught)?

A lot of people feel a war waged for greed and not defense is immoral and unamerican. For this administration’s war (it’s not America’s war, most Americans are opposed to it) to have to withdraw would be a case of justice, goodness, and God prevailing.

Congratulations Marko!

You are the first MORON on here to ADMIT that you want us to lose!

Was there ever any doubt?

I never said I want us to lose, I want us to leave. If that called a loss… Well that’s how you see it. I see it as a win against evil (Bush and Cheney and the Republicans).

I always want to see evil lose, as does most (non-Republican) Americans.

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Posted: 05 October 2007 10:35 AM   [ Ignore ]  [ # 34 ]

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Marko - 05 October 2007 10:31 AM

I see it as a win against evil (Bush and Cheney and the Republicans).

This is how we know you’re a traitor--you have everything all bass-ackwards.
President Bush, VP Cheney and we Republicans are the Good Guys.

I always want to see evil lose, as does most (non-Republican) Americans.

I want to see you lose because you are evil.
But I don’t think you speak for most Americans, even “non-Republicans.”

 
 
Posted: 05 October 2007 10:36 AM   [ Ignore ]  [ # 35 ]

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Marko - 05 October 2007 10:24 AM

Bush did order our troops to invade Iraq. Not the other way around.
Bush did start this war.

Saddam Hussein did provide financial and material support to terrorists. Saddam Hussein did hide his WMD programs from the United Nations. Saddam Hussein did bribe U.N. officials and steal money from the Oil for Food program. The U.N. did pass 30+ resolutions condemning Iraq’s WMD programs. The U.N. did believe Saddam Hussein was re-consituting his WMD program. The French, Italians, British, Russians and Germans all believed that Saddam Hussein was building his relationship with Al Queda. Saddam Hussein was building his relationship with Al Queda. The consensus of the intelligence community was that Saddam Hussein posed an imminent threat to the U.S. and it’s interests. Saddam Hussein did violate the terms of the 1991 accord that ended the first Gulf War. Iraq did fire upon U.S. fighters patrolling the no-fly zones.

Saddam Hussein did bring us to the brink of war. Bush didn’t blink.

Marko - 05 October 2007 10:24 AM

… And to a large degree because of the facts they see.

1) Bush ignored Osama—BULLSHIT

2) Republican companies are making a killing (financially) in Iraq and don’t ever want it to end—DOUBLE BULLSHIT, CITE YOUR SOURCE. WHAT’S A “REPUBLICAN COMPANY"… versus say, a Democrat Company… like all those you mentioned who donate heavily to Democrats as well.

3) Bush came up with various reasons for invading Iraq, all of them turned out to be false—TRIPLE BULLSHIT. WMDs proved wrong, but evidence of Saddam’s ties to terrorists have only grown stronger.

4) Iraq has nothing to do with 9/11—NOBODY EVER ONCE SAID IT DID. Well, except Democrats denying it… which is like denying the existence of the tooth fairy.

Marko - 05 October 2007 10:24 AM


The point here is that a great many Americans feel this is the way it is.

Cite your source. There is no poll that backs up that a “great many Americans” feel any of what you cited. Lunatic conspiracy theorists, maybe. Most Americans want it to end, sure. Most Americans refuse to cut off funding or surrender to Al Queda.

Especially when we’ve clearly got the upper hand.

Why do you support terrorists, Marko?

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Posted: 05 October 2007 10:38 AM   [ Ignore ]  [ # 36 ]

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Marko - 05 October 2007 10:25 AM


Not so funny, most people oppose amputation as a treatment for a broken arm. But still most people want it “fixed”.

You’re right. Most Americans believe we can fix Iraq and win, without surrendering to Al Queda and forfeiting the fight as Democrats believe.

Thanks! Now that we agree what the polls tell us.

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Posted: 05 October 2007 10:43 AM   [ Ignore ]  [ # 37 ]

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Marko - 05 October 2007 10:30 AM

And there’s this

http://afp.google.com/article/ALeqM5hVXmVmSgbAtmOMu2pep_FKHuNArg

Americans oppose full funding for Iraq war: poll
2 days ago

Yep, same poll said the majority oppose cutting of funding. Most Americans agree that we can’t surrender.

Marko - 05 October 2007 10:30 AM

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“Bush’s approval rating stands at 33 percent, equal to his career low in Post-ABC polls.

Yep, and what’s the approval rate for the Democrat surrender-monkey congress? ... 15 percent?

Marko - 05 October 2007 10:30 AM


http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/401957/poll_both_troop_withdrawal_plans_have.html

When they asked the participants if they favored or opposed a plan that would reduce the troop level in Iraq from about 170,000 to about 130,000 by next summer, without any troops being withdrawn before then, 66% favored the proposal, 30% were opposed and 4% had no opinion.

Yep, most Americans agree with George W. Bush’s plan. Thanks for documenting the evidence. The country supports George W. Bush.

What do the polls say when the question is asked “whether the U.S. should surrender in Iraq, and leave the country to terrorist-driven genocide?”

I bet we get about 75 percent opposition. The 25 percent favoring that plan, being Democrats.

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Posted: 05 October 2007 10:56 AM   [ Ignore ]  [ # 38 ]

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Marxo: “I never said I want us to lose, I want us to leave. If that called a loss… Well that’s how you see it. I see it as a win against evil (Bush and Cheney and the Republicans).”

Marxo

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And there you have it, folks.  An admission that the resident left-wing tip-tappin’ “patriotic” poster views Bush and Cheney as the “evil” enemy NOT radical Islamists.

Jon Carry was right about those “re-education camps” he favors.

My God.  An American who views the President and Vice President as a bigger threat to mankind than suicide bombers, beheaders of journalists (and others), and a wide assortment of others who commit unspeakable atrocities.  Well, Marxo, I’m sure that there will be still be room in Hell for you to share the sulphur with Saddam, Osama, KSM, and the rest of them.  The sooner you arrive, the sooner you can comisserate with your Islamist pals.  And, by the way, I wouldn’t count on hooking up with any “virgins”.

You and yours are the scum of the earth.

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Posted: 05 October 2007 11:38 AM   [ Ignore ]  [ # 39 ]

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This is how a great many Americans feel. And you must admit it’s an obstacle to Americans “getting on board” with this occupation.

Tough.  Fighting a war isn’t like buying gold futures.

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Posted: 05 October 2007 11:52 AM   [ Ignore ]  [ # 40 ]

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Rocketman, love redubbing him “Marxo!”
Suits him to a T.

 
 
Posted: 05 October 2007 11:54 AM   [ Ignore ]  [ # 41 ]

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Marko - 05 October 2007 09:37 AM

MNHawk - 05 October 2007 09:30 AM
to have to withdraw would be a case of justice, goodness, and Allah prevailing.

Fixed.

Do you think Jesus “backs” any war?

You are ignorant of Scriptures, and ignorant of the history of The Church.

That is, it depends on the battle, and it depends on the war.

As for rigged polls, aren’t they mostly? And Bush-bashing, I’ll join any criticism of Bush for selling out the country, for making the ‘war on terror’ look like a joke for failing to police our OWN border and losing the Congress as a result. But somehow I think you would consider that to be a ‘mark’ in Bush’s favor.

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Posted: 05 October 2007 12:02 PM   [ Ignore ]  [ # 42 ]

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Marko - 05 October 2007 09:20 AM

Bush isn’t fighting terrorism, he’s making money (our tax money) for his political buddies in Iraq.

What are you talking about?

 
 
Posted: 05 October 2007 12:38 PM   [ Ignore ]  [ # 43 ]

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Marko - 05 October 2007 09:27 AM

Listen, we can go back and forth and get nowhere. People do that here all day and night long.

What I’m telling you is the reason many people feel that leaving Iraq for any reason would be an acceptable and ultimately patriotic action is because the invasion and occupation is motivated by immoral and evil reasons.

That’s how many people feel. And all the administration’s propaganda hasn’t moved the majority of Americans who feel the whole thing was a mistake. You may believe it. But most people don’t buy it. That’s the reality.

The ultimate purpose of diplomacy and/or military action is self preservation. It always has been and always will be so.

We are in the Middle East because we cannot allow anyone hostile to us to control that huge part of the world’s oil supply that happens to be there.

I can see that your high school guidance councilor has been a great influence on you. You will get past that sort of thinking after you graduate and have some real world experience.

 
 
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JentheNeoCon - 05 October 2007 10:32 AM

I don’t need links about or news of other traitors like you, thanks.
Give it a rest, Marktardo, or we’ll trace your IP, find out where you live and send out a band of patriots with some rope.

This reads like a threat and will be reported as such.

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Posted: 05 October 2007 01:33 PM   [ Ignore ]  [ # 45 ]

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Democrats swoon when Castro is mentioned.

Democrats glow with support for North Korea. 

Democrats rush to hold Hugo’s hand. 

Lies.

 
 
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