While I agree with all of the appalling details of the Duke case and the shameful behavior of the Duke faculty and administration, we should not forget that the Duke Lacrosse team did hire a couple of African-American “strippers” to entertain at the party that started the whole fiasco. I think that young men from such upstanding families should have exercise better judgement. I certainly hope they do in the future.
Given that the popularity of the then president of the United States (acccording to polls) went up with every new revelation of depravity and his ethically challenged enabler is now the Democrat front runner may I suggest that rather than hope you do something constructive. So what do you intend to do?
The list of fools who felt obliged to condemn the players is indeed long - however Grace and Murphy stand out for some of the silliest and over-the-top hyperbole uttered.
Seems if you’re willing to say the dumbest things, have a valid law degree and know how to primp for the camera you’ll never have to say you’re sorry. Too bad those young men can’t sue Grace and Murphy for unsupportable character assassination and public slander. If nothing else both women should have their licenses to practice law taken away and burnt.
For the legal profession to maintain even the remotest sense of dignity I would hope that lawyers who believe in and practice law as a sacred obligation would expose individuals like Grace and Murphy who see it simply as a vehicle for personal aggrandizement.
The list of fools who felt obliged to condemn the players is indeed long - however Grace and Murphy stand out for some of the silliest and over-the-top hyperbole uttered.
Seems if you’re willing to say the dumbest things, have a valid law degree and know how to primp for the camera you’ll never have to say you’re sorry. Too bad those young men can’t sue Grace and Murphy for unsupportable character assassination and public slander. If nothing else both women should have their licenses to practice law taken away and burnt.
For the legal profession to maintain even the remotest sense of dignity I would hope that lawyers who believe in and practice law as a sacred obligation would expose individuals like Grace and Murphy who see it simply as a vehicle for personal aggrandizement.
Even if the current legal climate is to be soft on criminals and therefore in need of balance, Grace and Murphy are a disgrace to the legal profession. They do not abide by concepts such a presumption of innocence and fairly weighing the evidence before coming to a conclusion. From what I have seen of them they do not possess qualities which are fundamental to any competent prosecutor which is to be open minded and fair minded along with being tough.
Everyone of those players was guilty of something....don’t tell me that $5 million of legal fees buys you exoneration because it doesn’t. And what about that pasty faced, cretin named Finnerty, who’s still carrying an assault conviction from Georgetown. Want him on your campus now? I hear he’s working at a McDonald’s on Long Island....loser
The Duke 88 are disgraceful....they present the true picture of our college’s today...a very sad statement on American’s...we are the only one’s to blame...we have not noticed, or, refused to say anything, until now.....
Any parent considering sending their child to a place like Columbia or Duke should be aware of an opportunity to get the kid the equivalent education at a 90% discount.
All they need do is buy the kid a plane ticket to Hanoi on JAL, at about 5% of the $40,000 a year tuition at Columbia or Duke. Make sure the kid has enough pocket money to buy a poster board and felt tip marker at the airport in Hanoi. Have the kid make up a sign saying “Ho Chi Minh = Hitler” and have him march around the airport concourse with it. The kid will be taken into custody and will spend several years as a guest of The People in a re-education camp.
Upon release, you’ll have to fork over another $2,000 or so for airfare home; but you’ll have the same end product as produced by an education in the Ivory Gulag here at home, and at a 90% discount on the cost!
If you don’t really care whether the kid ends up a Marxist or an Islamist, you can work the same deal to a university in Iran, at a slightly greater savings, but also at a slightly lower chance of survival.
So I congratulate (rather late, but sincerely) the Reverend Jesse Jackson for his prescience. Unfortunately I don’t think he really meant what he said.
“The Duke scandal should lead colleges across the country to hold searching discussions about racial and sexual stereotypes, exposing the myths that entrap so many.” Reverend Jesse Jackson
I really enjoyed this thread, especially the opinions about the Duke 88. I then surfed elsewhere and just had to share this gem with all thee of little faith. It’s a excerpt from an opinion piece in todays Rocky Mountian News written by a law professor from U of C Boulder named Paul Campos:
All this came to mind last week when I glimpsed Bill Kristol’s smooth and amiable face on the television, where it appears so often. Kristol - editor of The Weekly Standard, Fox News contributor, co-founder of the key neo-conservative group the Project For the New American Century, and current visiting professor at Harvard - is the very definition of a well-respected man about town, doing the best things so conservatively.
But how respectable is Kristol, really? Anyone who pays the least attention to him soon discovers that the ruling passion of Kristol’s life is to involve the United States in as many wars as possible, with as many enemies as he can find or create.
In short, Kristol thinks about war in much the same way the narrator of Lolita thought about 12-year-old girls: with a constant, obsessive, perverse longing.
I choose this analogy with some care. An overwhelming lust for violence seems to be the common vice that links together Kristol, the various Kaplans (Lawrence, Fred, Robert), and other leaders of the contemporary neo-conservative movement
There are certainly others, but they are not, for the most part, the most famous (or infamous) or “prestigeous” institutions. Many of our scientific, engineering and technical universities still have valid credentials. Also there are many small colleges that have not been hijacked by the left. As parents we need to look for these places, rather than sending our children to these outrageously expensive academic sewers that are bankrupting not only our pocketbooks but our culture as well.
The Virginia Military Institute (which is technically a public college)
A rule of thumb is to avoid large universities and those that are referred to as “the best in the country”; look for a small college with an excellent local reputation.
On another subject: there has been an insidious and sometimes not so subtle effort to denigrate and besmeerch white males, who are often characterized as “privileged.” “Diversity” is one way that the attack has been carried out.
According to this way of thinking, black rappers are not “privileged,” but the white men who listen to them are.
