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Fair joins the fight agains the SPP, wake up congress and america, nazism is at work in washington.
Posted: 29 August 2007 07:38 PM   [ Ignore ]  [ # 16 ]

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oldjim - 29 August 2007 09:53 AM

August 28, 2007




Last week President Bush met with Mexican President Calderón and Canadian Prime Minister Harper as part of the second Security and Prosperity Partnership (SPP) summit to hone their plan for a North American Union that would merge the U.S. with Canada and Mexico.

Proponents say the SPP was designed as a means to further integrate the economies of the three countries believing that this would create increased economic gains and security for all three countries.

But we know the truth.

The SPP is designed to circumvent Congress and provide the Executive Branch the power to enforce and execute the law without any input from Congress.

Both the Canadian and Mexican governments strongly oppose many of the security measures enacted by the United States, most notably the U.S. Visit system requiring DHS to keep record of everyone who enters or leaves the country. These countries are actively trying to persuade the President to rescind this provision.

In addition, both countries are lobbying to stop the new passport requirements governed by the Western Hemisphere Travel Initiative. This initiative was enacted by Congress as a way to protect our country from terrorism.

If that isn’t enough, the SPP has regulatory changes and open border provisions that blatantly undermine our sovereignty — and seriously threaten our national security — such as the “trusted travelers program”, a program that allows participants to bypass border checks and move through the countries freely.

As far back as the inception of the Bush presidency in 2000, FAIR exposed the frequent meetings between President Bush and then Mexican President Vincente Fox to discuss fewer restrictions on travel for citizens between the two countries.

In addition, FAIR has been exposing the short-sighted Bush plan to eventually erase the border between the US and Mexico…and American sovereignty since 2000.

We promise to continue to show these closed-door meetings and behind-the-scenes agreements for what they are…an attempt to override all legally mandated limitations on U.S. immigration policy-to once again disregard U.S.



Just open the doors and letem all in, right bush supporters?

Why do you post here when it is Commie ass you are kissing?

Your wicked lies slander good men and women.

I can only imagine the long strings of sin which you have engaged in. No man speaks as you do and is without lengthy and sickening deep sin.

You would do well to actually pick up a history book and learn about Nazism. It sounds like you are a Commie, a Nazi at heart, who wishes to libel honest, liberal democracies and the hearts of good people to paint them as you are yourself.

You are an evil man whose heart is full of vile darkness. I am not surprised you so often speak of others being this way.

Look at your life, you show it to everyone here when you speak. Do you think your vile words hide your deeds? They expose them.

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Posted: 29 August 2007 07:52 PM   [ Ignore ]  [ # 17 ]  
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Origins, History, and Impact

FAIR was created following a factional split in Zero Population Growth led by John Tanton. Along with Sidney Swensrud and Sharon Barnes, Tanton founded FAIR in 1979. FAIR’s links to other local and national organizations that are stridently anti-immigrant, anti-Latino, and supremacist have undermined FAIR’s own credibility and led to questions about the underlying agenda of its restrictionist approach to immigration. Referring to FAIR and associated groups, the Southern Poverty Law Center concluded an article on immigrant hate groups stating: “Opinion polls consistently show that a majority of Americans believe that immigration needs to be cut below current levels, although that does not imply that they support the ideas of white supremacists or other bigots…. The danger is not that immigration levels are debated by Americans, but that the debate is controlled by bigots and extremists whose views are anathema to the ideals on which this country was founded.” (12)(21)

According to FAIR, the media mentioned FAIR 5,300 times during 2003, representatives wrote op-eds that appeared in top newspapers around the country, and together with the organization 9-11 Families for a Secure America it sponsored newspaper ads in the Washington, DC area calling for restrictionist immigration policy. Also in 2003, FAIR representatives spoke to the FBI’s advisory policy board, testified before state legislatures, lobbied Congress for immigration reform along with 9-11 Families for a Secure America, met with the House and Senate Immigration Subcommittee chairmen, spoke at the Fraternal Order of Police national conference, and joined with representatives of AFL-CIO and Organization for the Rights of American Workers to highlight H-1B visa abuses and to release the Deleting American Workers report in a standing-room only briefing in Congress. Throughout the year, FAIR says it worked educating lawmakers about the problems of guest-worker and amnesty programs while at the same time organizing grassroots initiatives around the nation to inform the public about and organize against particular community, state, and federal legislation. (13)

Gee, Gray Ghost, I think you may have a different org.  Is such a thing possibile??

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Posted: 29 August 2007 08:00 PM   [ Ignore ]  [ # 18 ]  
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Nobody - 29 August 2007 07:38 PM

oldjim - 29 August 2007 09:53 AM
August 28, 2007




Last week President Bush met with Mexican President Calderón and Canadian Prime Minister Harper as part of the second Security and Prosperity Partnership (SPP) summit to hone their plan for a North American Union that would merge the U.S. with Canada and Mexico.

Proponents say the SPP was designed as a means to further integrate the economies of the three countries believing that this would create increased economic gains and security for all three countries.

But we know the truth.

The SPP is designed to circumvent Congress and provide the Executive Branch the power to enforce and execute the law without any input from Congress.

Both the Canadian and Mexican governments strongly oppose many of the security measures enacted by the United States, most notably the U.S. Visit system requiring DHS to keep record of everyone who enters or leaves the country. These countries are actively trying to persuade the President to rescind this provision.

In addition, both countries are lobbying to stop the new passport requirements governed by the Western Hemisphere Travel Initiative. This initiative was enacted by Congress as a way to protect our country from terrorism.

If that isn’t enough, the SPP has regulatory changes and open border provisions that blatantly undermine our sovereignty — and seriously threaten our national security — such as the “trusted travelers program”, a program that allows participants to bypass border checks and move through the countries freely.

As far back as the inception of the Bush presidency in 2000, FAIR exposed the frequent meetings between President Bush and then Mexican President Vincente Fox to discuss fewer restrictions on travel for citizens between the two countries.

In addition, FAIR has been exposing the short-sighted Bush plan to eventually erase the border between the US and Mexico…and American sovereignty since 2000.

We promise to continue to show these closed-door meetings and behind-the-scenes agreements for what they are…an attempt to override all legally mandated limitations on U.S. immigration policy-to once again disregard U.S.



Just open the doors and letem all in, right bush supporters?

Why do you post here when it is Commie ass you are kissing?

Your wicked lies slander good men and women.

I can only imagine the long strings of sin which you have engaged in. No man speaks as you do and is without lengthy and sickening deep sin.

You would do well to actually pick up a history book and learn about Nazism. It sounds like you are a Commie, a Nazi at heart, who wishes to libel honest, liberal democracies and the hearts of good people to paint them as you are yourself.

You are an evil man whose heart is full of vile darkness. I am not surprised you so often speak of others being this way.

Look at your life, you show it to everyone here when you speak. Do you think your vile words hide your deeds? They expose them.

Hey old boy, its bush doing this crap, not me. I have not told the sob to try to steal the country, thats his idea.
So, your a liberal, who is supporting Nazis like gonzales who are trying to subbvert the bill of rights, and the rest of the Constitution?  Your freaking hero, bush is the one doing the crap, aided by the likes of Gonzales, who got caught and is gone, chertoff is another who is willing to murder half the population of the USA as long as fema and homeland security have control.
Its your right to be an idiot, and its my right to think and post what I please.
So I will give you the same chance as offered to rocket fizzle, prove that bush is a fiscally responsibile president, you can try but you know the clown has dug a huge nine TRILLION dollar hole and it will be 11 trillion before he is out of office, and you expect to chide me because I post things you do not like?
Try not to be any dumber than you have to be.

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Posted: 29 August 2007 08:16 PM   [ Ignore ]  [ # 19 ]  
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Nutbody, here is a bit more for you read, but not understand.

The attorney general was further damaged by testimony Tuesday from former deputy attorney general James B. Comey, who described how Gonzales, then the White House counsel, attempted to persuade then-Attorney General John D. Ashcroft to reauthorize a terrorism surveillance program while Ashcroft was in intensive care recovering from surgery.

The Justice Department had deemed the secret warrantless program illegal, and Comey, as acting attorney general, refused to renew it. Comey, Ashcroft, FBI Director Robert S. Mueller III and others threatened to resign before President Bush intervened, Comey testified.

Sen. Olympia Snowe (R-Maine) said Bush “should obviously seriously consider” firing Gonzales over the 2004 incident.

Bush, who has strongly supported Gonzales, declined to comment yesterday on whether he ordered Gonzales and Andrew H. Card Jr., then Bush’s chief of staff, to make the hospital visit.

What are you anyway, some holy roller, lay in the floor, kicking and screaming about sin?
What you are is a nut case
Why do you post here when it is Commie ass you are kissing?

Your wicked lies slander good men and women.

I can only imagine the long strings of sin which you have engaged in. No man speaks as you do and is without lengthy and sickening deep sin.

You would do well to actually pick up a history book and learn about Nazism. It sounds like you are a Commie, a Nazi at heart, who wishes to libel honest, liberal democracies and the hearts of good people to paint them as you are yourself.

You are an evil man whose heart is full of vile darkness. I am not surprised you so often speak of others being this way.

Look at your life, you show it to everyone here when you speak. Do you think your vile words hide your deeds? They expose them.

Your a blathering snake handling texas idiot sounds like to me, do you take your children to the Dr. when they are ill? Or do just let gawd heal them?
Take your vile darkness bs and shove it up where the sun does not shine, blathering fool.

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Posted: 29 August 2007 09:09 PM   [ Ignore ]  [ # 20 ]  
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Prediction time!

When none of what oldjim predicts will happen, happens, he will then take credit for preventing it.

 
 
Posted: 29 August 2007 09:35 PM   [ Ignore ]  [ # 21 ]  
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oldjim - 29 August 2007 07:52 PM

Origins, History, and Impact

FAIR was created following a factional split in Zero Population Growth led by John Tanton. Along with Sidney Swensrud and Sharon Barnes, Tanton founded FAIR in 1979. FAIR’s links to other local and national organizations that are stridently anti-immigrant, anti-Latino, and supremacist have undermined FAIR’s own credibility and led to questions about the underlying agenda of its restrictionist approach to immigration. Referring to FAIR and associated groups, the Southern Poverty Law Center concluded an article on immigrant hate groups stating: “Opinion polls consistently show that a majority of Americans believe that immigration needs to be cut below current levels, although that does not imply that they support the ideas of white supremacists or other bigots…. The danger is not that immigration levels are debated by Americans, but that the debate is controlled by bigots and extremists whose views are anathema to the ideals on which this country was founded.” (12)(21)

According to FAIR, the media mentioned FAIR 5,300 times during 2003, representatives wrote op-eds that appeared in top newspapers around the country, and together with the organization 9-11 Families for a Secure America it sponsored newspaper ads in the Washington, DC area calling for restrictionist immigration policy. Also in 2003, FAIR representatives spoke to the FBI’s advisory policy board, testified before state legislatures, lobbied Congress for immigration reform along with 9-11 Families for a Secure America, met with the House and Senate Immigration Subcommittee chairmen, spoke at the Fraternal Order of Police national conference, and joined with representatives of AFL-CIO and Organization for the Rights of American Workers to highlight H-1B visa abuses and to release the Deleting American Workers report in a standing-room only briefing in Congress. Throughout the year, FAIR says it worked educating lawmakers about the problems of guest-worker and amnesty programs while at the same time organizing grassroots initiatives around the nation to inform the public about and organize against particular community, state, and federal legislation. (13)


Gee, Gray Ghost, I think you may have a different org.  Is such a thing possibile??

MY source is David Horowitz’ Discover The NetWork.  They’re meticulous in research and stand behind their work.  Their site is a tremendous database and in the two years they’ve been up, they encourage anyone or any group listed to contact them if they believe an inaccuracy exists.  They maintain a list of any corrections in a link, available for the public.  In the 2 years, they’ve been contacted 10 times.  One was K. Van der Heuvel of The Nation.  Van der Huevel objected to Horowitz’ listing her as having worked for the Moscow Times.  Her objection was petty as it turned out she worked for the Moscow News. 

So, if you have some doubts, I encourage you to visit DTN.  And you’d be well-advised to make sure you don’t rely on the group that wrote the article you posted to describe FAIR in the future.

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Posted: 30 August 2007 10:19 AM   [ Ignore ]  [ # 22 ]  
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Thresherman - 29 August 2007 09:09 PM

Prediction time!

When none of what oldjim predicts will happen, happens, he will then take credit for preventing it.

Are you not aware that this is really going on?
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And I don’t suppose the above is real either?
The SSP/North American Union is the most dangerous thing to happen to the United States since Hilter came to power in Germany and started the 1000 year reich, which appears to be alive and growing, in Washington,D.C., and the assualt is being led by George W. Bush and his cabal of crooks.

I am not telling you that it might happen some day, I am telling you that it is happening right now, today.
And if you choose to bury your head in the bush shirt, then starch your brown shirt and learn to sing rousing songs about how wonderful the nazi party has been to you.

US Department of commerce web site at usgovt.com has more, if you would like to go read more, hope you do.

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Posted: 30 August 2007 10:25 AM   [ Ignore ]  [ # 23 ]  
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Gray Ghost, I will check the site. I have respect for Horowitz, and beleive him to be a man of intergity.

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Posted: 30 August 2007 10:25 AM   [ Ignore ]  [ # 24 ]  
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Oldjim:  You are the Google King and master of colorful insults.  But still deluded.

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Posted: 30 August 2007 10:27 AM   [ Ignore ]  [ # 25 ]  
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831,000 hits, so it must be true!

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Posted: 30 August 2007 11:36 AM   [ Ignore ]  [ # 26 ]  
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Curtiss and mnhawkand Thresherman

Its those dern old lying govt. sites, like the dept. of commerce.


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Security and Prosperity Partnership Of North America

2006 Report to Leaders

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SPP Fact Sheets

SPP Myths vs Facts (Updated)

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SPP Background

The Security and Prosperity Partnership of North America (SPP) was launched in March of 2005 as a trilateral effort to increase security and enhance prosperity among the United States, Canada and Mexico through greater cooperation and information sharing.

This trilateral initiative is premised on our security and our economic prosperity being mutually reinforcing. The SPP recognizes that our three great nations are bound by a shared belief in freedom, economic opportunity, and strong democratic institutions.

The SPP provides the framework to ensure that North America is the safest and best place to live and do business. It includes ambitious security and prosperity programs to keep our borders closed to terrorism yet open to trade.

The SPP builds upon, but is separate from, our long-standing trade and economic relationships. It energizes other aspects of our cooperative relations, such as the protection of our environment, our food supply, and our public health.


From the govt. web site, I am sure that you are aware that this is not a program funded by congress, nor approved in fact mostly it has been concealed from them. To attempts to legalize this outrage, Richard Lugar, Rep. from Ind,. and Kathrine Harris, Repub. from Fla.
Both bills died in committee, yet bush just shifts it over to Dept. of commerce and give congress the finger.
In case you are not aware of what thats called, dictitorship comes to mind. Der Fuher is out of control and needs to be locked away before he destroys the United States.

What they do not bother to mention, the North American Union Leaders, plan to implent this crap in 2010.
Nor do they make a bold face type declaration that the NAU laws will TRUMP the laws of the suprement court of the USA, Congress and anything and everything else, except the freaking United Nations.

Its called a one world govt and bush intends to head said govt.

Whatever you do gentleperson, make no effort to learn more, bush is quite happy that he has a few flocks of flawed freaks who support his nazi crap.
The Third Reich is alive and well, living in the white house of the USA.

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Posted: 30 August 2007 11:55 AM   [ Ignore ]  [ # 27 ]  
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Union: Mexican Trucks Begin Crossing Border Saturday
Union Asks Court To Block Mexican Trucks

POSTED: 9:32 am PDT August 29, 2007
UPDATED: 8:05 pm PDT August 29, 2007

WASHINGTON—The Teamsters Union said it has been told by officials in the Transportation Department’s Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration that the first Mexican trucks will be coming across the border on Saturday.

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The union said Wednesday it would ask a federal appeals courts to block the Bush administration’s plan to begin allowing Mexican trucks to carry cargo anywhere in the United States.

Teamsters leaders said they planned to seek an emergency injunction Wednesday from the Ninth Circuit U.S. Court of Appeals in San Francisco.

“What a slap in the face to American workers, opening the highways to dangerous trucks on Labor Day weekend, one of the busiest driving weekends of the year,” said Teamsters President Jim Hoffa.

Joining the Teamsters in seeking the emergency stay were the Sierra Club and Public Citizen.

“Before providing unconditional access throughout the country to tens of thousands of big rigs we know little to nothing about, we must insure they meet safety and environmental standards,” Sierra Club executive director Carl Pope said.

The Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration, in a statement, said it was working closely with the department’s inspector general “as his office completes an additional assessment of the program and we prepare a detailed response to that report.”

The Bush administration said last week it would start the cross-border program once the Transportation Department’s inspector general certifies safety and inspection plans.

Leslie Miller, a Teamsters spokeswoman, said attorneys for the federal truck safety agency advised the union’s lawyers that they expect to get that certification on Friday. She said the Teamsters also were told by the agency attorneys that limited authority for trucks to begin crossing the border will be approved Saturday.

Supporters of the plan say letting more Mexican trucks on U.S. highways will save American consumers hundreds of millions of dollars.

Labor and driver-owner groups have been fighting the measure—part of the 1994 North American Free Trade Agreement—since it was first proposed, saying the program will erode highway safety and eliminate U.S. jobs.

A one-year demonstration project would allow 100 Mexican motor carriers full access to U.S. roads. It can begin as soon as the inspector general certifies that safety and inspection plans and facilities are sufficient to ensure the Mexican trucks are as safe as U.S. trucks.

Since 1982, Mexican trucks have had to stop within a buffer border zone and transfer their loads to U.S. trucks.

According to the CHP, 18 percent of Mexican carriers were sidelined in 2006. That figure stands in contrast with the 19 percent of American companies.

THIS IS NOT BEING DONE, IT IS NOT HAPPENING, IT IS ALL A LIE MADE UP BY LEFT WING NUT CASES.  DUH.
As I have been saying, North AMerican Union of 1994, we have a lot to thank clinton and bush for, the betrayal of the United States.

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Posted: 30 August 2007 11:57 AM   [ Ignore ]  [ # 28 ]  
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Thresherman - 29 August 2007 09:09 PM

Prediction time!

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You were saying?

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Posted: 30 August 2007 12:21 PM   [ Ignore ]  [ # 29 ]  
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Whats the matter oh brave bushites?
Did he just kick you dumb butts so hard your nose is bleeding?
Or did you bite your tongue?

Just as I have been telling you for some time now.
MEXICAN TRUCKS START ROLLING ACROSS THE US BORDER ON LABOR DAY WEEK END.
Hey all you good buddy truckers, old bush has knocked you in the ditch, has he not?

WHO IS FOR THE NORTH AMERICAN UNION?  comon bushies, where is your cheers for the betrayal of the United States of America?

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