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The New “Immigration” Bill Is Not Amnesty … IT’S TREASON!!!
Posted: 19 May 2007 03:27 PM   [ Ignore ]  
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’Nuff said.

 
 
Posted: 19 May 2007 03:30 PM   [ Ignore ]  [ # 1 ]  
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I called Kyl’s office yesterday and was told that the issues of anchor babies and dual citizenship are not included in the bill; therefore, they will continue as they now stand.

If this bill passes, I’m changing my voter registration from Republican to Independent and the GOP can go to hell for all I’ll care.

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Posted: 19 May 2007 03:33 PM   [ Ignore ]  [ # 2 ]  
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luthien - 19 May 2007 03:30 PM

I called Kyl’s office yesterday and was told that the issues of anchor babies and dual citizenship are not included in the bill; therefore, they will continue as they now stand.

No surprise.

If this bill passes, I’m changing my voter registration from Republican to Independent and the GOP can go to hell for all I’ll care.

Yep.  I feel the exact same way.

EDIT:  I guess they’ll get a much better view of the anger of the Republican voters over the next couple of primary debates and as the candidates are forced to talk about this.

 
 
Posted: 19 May 2007 03:48 PM   [ Ignore ]  [ # 3 ]  
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SusanGo - 19 May 2007 03:45 PM

luthien - 19 May 2007 03:30 PM

If this bill passes, I’m changing my voter registration from Republican to Independent and the GOP can go to hell for all I’ll care.

I can’t go that far because I am afraid of the Democrats getting in.

If this bill passes, it doesn’t matter who’s in the White House anymore.

But I can tell you that John McCain is totally out of the running for me.

I think quite a few people are in that boat.  McCain never had a chance, anyway, but he’s toast, now.

Besides that, I live in Florida where our wonderful junior senator, Mel Martinez, is from. I will NEVER vote for him again. Another politician who was against this before he was for it.

These traitorous Republicans need to be shunned, totally - politically, socially, in all ways.

 
 
Posted: 19 May 2007 03:55 PM   [ Ignore ]  [ # 4 ]  
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Elizabeth Dole is up for re-election and is apparently worried enough that her office put out a statement saying ‘no amnesty’.  I have tried repeatedly to get her staff to get her definition of ‘amnesty’, but had no luck with that.

I don’t suppose I need to say, CALL, FAX, EMAIL!?

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Posted: 19 May 2007 05:04 PM   [ Ignore ]  [ # 5 ]  
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But I can tell you that John McCain is totally out of the running for me.

Every single one of John McCain’s offices was yielding busy signals yesterday, except for the D.C. one, which gave a recording (it never gives a busy signal).

Same can be said for lots of other senate offices.

Elizabeth Dole is up for re-election and is apparently worried enough that her office put out a statement saying ‘no amnesty’.  I have tried repeatedly to get her staff to get her definition of ‘amnesty’, but had no luck with that.

The amnesty charge will stick with all, no matter how they “voted” on it. Simply voting against a bill isn’t enough to satisfy the public anymore. Enough are sophisticated to know how insincere they are. And much of the public votes their gut - “I hate how thing are going” - not how their particular senator does.

Undeniably the amnesty vote, and George Bush’s last minute stumping for their campaigns, cost Talent and Allen their seats last year, even though they opposed the amnesty.

Dole, Harkin, Chambliss, Levin, Rockefeller, Graham, Pryor, Landrieu, Craig, McConnell, Coleman, Baucus, Hagel, Sununu, Smith, Warner, and all the rest - every single one of their jobs is on the line. I’m almost hoping the bill passes - it would be nice to see so many congressmen lose their jobs.

 
 
Posted: 19 May 2007 05:08 PM   [ Ignore ]  [ # 6 ]  
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CharlesMartel - 19 May 2007 05:04 PM

Dole, Harkin, Chambliss, Levin, Rockefeller, Graham, Pryor, Landrieu, Craig, McConnell, Coleman, Baucus, Hagel, Sununu, Smith, Warner, and all the rest - every single one of their jobs is on the line. I’m almost hoping the bill passes - it would be nice to see so many congressmen lose their jobs.

Any Republican who does not oppose this bill right now is going to lose his/her seat whether the legislation passes, or not, IMO.  I think we’ll see it over the next week.  This issue is going to erupt.

 
 
Posted: 19 May 2007 05:10 PM   [ Ignore ]  [ # 7 ]  
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I can’t go that far because I am afraid of the Democrats getting in.

And that’s why your crooked politicians love you. When so many voters say things like that, they have just surrendered their only bargaining power as a voter. Might as well go buy a house and say “I’ll pay anything you want - I HAVE to have this house!”

Vote against corrupt pols, whether they’re “Republicans” or “Democrats.” It’s the ONLY power you have as a voter.

 
 
Posted: 19 May 2007 05:17 PM   [ Ignore ]  [ # 8 ]

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I absolutely understand the frustration of those saying they will dump the Republican party if the bill passes. I feel much the same way.

The huge problem, however, is that it won’t make any difference. If this bill passes, it will be the first step down the path of making the 12 to 20 million illegals in this country voters. With or without conservative support, it will be the death knell of the Republican party. The statistics on the education and skill levels of the immigrant population make it overwhelmingly likely that a huge majority of them will be voting for the party of redistribution of wealth. Republicans will never win another election in this country.

Never in the history of this nation has it been more important to make our voices heard. Please contact your representatives, and please encourage every red-blooded American you know to do the same. It is not overly dramatic to say that the very future of our nation is at stake.

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Posted: 19 May 2007 05:32 PM   [ Ignore ]  [ # 9 ]  
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Cricket - 19 May 2007 05:17 PM

I absolutely understand the frustration of those saying they will dump the Republican party if the bill passes. I feel much the same way.

The huge problem, however, is that it won’t make any difference.

It will make the only difference that any of the GOP politicians care about: it will lessen - if not destroy - any chance they may have of winning in the next election.  However, I’m going to call to see if I can do it after the primary, but before the general election so that I can first vote AGAINST McCain: some pleasures in life just should not be denied.

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Posted: 19 May 2007 05:55 PM   [ Ignore ]  [ # 10 ]

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It’s obvious they don’t care about us anymore. I busted my rear volunteering for Coleman in 2002 and contributed financially. I warned him after he voted Petraeus out of armed services then again on the Senate floor not to vote for the non-binding resolution. He and Collins were the only two Republicans to vote for closure on that motion. He is now dead to me I could careless if Frakken beats him.

Now the whole Republican party is about to flip me the bird. If this amnesty passes I am though with the party. Frankly I don’t care anymore. Let the libs sweep it all I could careless. Life’s to short to waste my time.

The only dark horse if this amnesty passes is Mitt Romney. He is the only top-tier Candidate to come out against this. If he ran on a platform promising to over turn this mess he may have a chance.

Isn’t it amazing how fast the tide can change. It was Frank who said “riding high in September, shot down in May”. How true is that? That’s how long it took to lose this once great country.

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Posted: 19 May 2007 06:00 PM   [ Ignore ]  [ # 11 ]  
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Romney is a phony who will say anything to get the republican base to support him.  No one should mistake him for the real deal.

That being said, I’m not sure there is a “real deal” republican running....yet.

Just thought I’d bust up this echo chamber, there were far too many fumes in here

 
 
Posted: 19 May 2007 06:05 PM   [ Ignore ]  [ # 12 ]  
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senorlechero - 19 May 2007 06:00 PM

That being said, I’m not sure there is a “real deal” republican running....yet.

Just thought I’d bust up this echo chamber, there were far too many fumes in here

Your voice is always welcome, senor.

 
 
Posted: 19 May 2007 06:08 PM   [ Ignore ]  [ # 13 ]

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Romney is a phony who will say anything to get the republican base to support him.  No one should mistake him for the real deal.

I’m not sure that I disagree with you. But an alternate view is that he’s more willing to listen to what the base wants, the base in America being substantially more conservative than that of Massachusetts.

I’ll vote for a potential phony long before I’ll vote for a man who will certainly enact all sorts of policies I oppose.

 
 
Posted: 19 May 2007 06:14 PM   [ Ignore ]  [ # 14 ]

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I understand this point. However, as much as I hate this, who is left to vote for? Hilary? And if I don’t vote at all, it is the same as voting for Hilary.

What you have to understand is that the two parties have different coalitions making up the base. The coalition currently running things on the GOP side is the one dominated by wealthy interests looking for open borders, cheap labor, and low low taxes (but only for the rich.) They couldn’t give a crap about the social issues (affirmative action, abortion, etc.) What has the GOP done about those lately?

The point is, if the Democrats take control, that group loses their low taxes. The Bush tax cuts would expire. It would be a very bad day for them.

Like I said, you can’t give up your bargaining power. You have to be able to go to the table willing to do anything to get even a part of what you want.

 
 
Posted: 19 May 2007 06:17 PM   [ Ignore ]  [ # 15 ]

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senorlechero Posted: Romney is a phony who will say anything to get the republican base to support him. No one should mistake him for the real deal.

senorlechero is a rabid commie lib who worries Romney will beat the fatassed Shrill. Look at Mitts record as Gov of Mass. His record as Gov is pure Conservatism.

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