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Hooray for Strategist.  Liberalism is destroying America.

Mr. Wonder........welcome to the forum.

The poster whom you refer to as “strategist” is Horse.  Strategist is just a classification given him based on the number of posts he has made..........like you are “Voter”......and will be until you post 50 or 100 times, then you’ll earn a different classification.  It’s all for fun, and many of us have made that mistake.

Anyway, best wishes to you

Some people’s ancestors were famous politicians and generals.

Some people’s ancestors stepped off the ‘Mayflower’.

But my ancestors stepped off Noah’s Ark.

horse - 22 February 2007 03:17 PM

Raptavio - 22 February 2007 01:44 PM

... So the brood of the Washington family spawned a dingdang lib’rul!

How entertaining, you have accurately portrayed that as a bad thing and in counter to the great man’s principles.

How entertaining that you would say that, since Washington said this:

As Mankind becomes more liberal, they will be more apt to allow that all those who conduct themselves as worthy members of the community are equally entitled to the protections of civil government. I hope ever to see America among the foremost nations of justice and liberality.

jukeboxgrad - 24 February 2007 11:00 AM

horse - 22 February 2007 03:17 PM

Raptavio - 22 February 2007 01:44 PM

... So the brood of the Washington family spawned a dingdang lib’rul!

How entertaining, you have accurately portrayed that as a bad thing and in counter to the great man’s principles.

How entertaining that you would say that, since Washington said this:

As Mankind becomes more liberal, they will be more apt to allow that all those who conduct themselves as worthy members of the community are equally entitled to the protections of civil government. I hope ever to see America among the foremost nations of justice and liberality.

Here’s the problem with you pinko headaches:”...those who conduct themselves as worthy members of the community...”
The jury’s out on that one and it’s not looking good.
How dare America-hating scum like you quote our premier Founding Father to try and justify your stinking thinking!

jukeboxgrad - 24 February 2007 11:00 AM

horse - 22 February 2007 03:17 PM

Raptavio - 22 February 2007 01:44 PM

... So the brood of the Washington family spawned a dingdang lib’rul!

How entertaining, you have accurately portrayed that as a bad thing and in counter to the great man’s principles.

How entertaining that you would say that, since Washington said this:

As Mankind becomes more liberal, they will be more apt to allow that all those who conduct themselves as worthy members of the community are equally entitled to the protections of civil government. I hope ever to see America among the foremost nations of justice and liberality.

Very funny, Juke!  And “liberality” in the 18th Century meant...Dennis Kucinich!  Yeah, right.

jhinderaker - 24 February 2007 05:07 PM

And “liberality” in the 18th Century meant...Dennis Kucinich!

Since you’re doing your usual thing and trotting out a straw man to hide behind, why stop at Kucinich? Hasn’t it been a while since you mentioned Ward Churchill?

And since you’re such an acknowledged expert on 18th century vocabulary, hopefully you can set us straight and tell us what Washington really meant by using that word.

jukeboxgrad - 24 February 2007 06:49 PM

jhinderaker - 24 February 2007 05:07 PM

And “liberality” in the 18th Century meant...Dennis Kucinich!

Since you’re doing your usual thing and trotting out a straw man to hide behind, why stop at Kucinich? Hasn’t it been a while since you mentioned Ward Churchill?

And since you’re such an acknowledged expert on 18th century vocabulary, hopefully you can set us straight and tell us what Washington really meant by using that word.

Sorry, jukie, but you were the one who quoted GW and acted as if you were the 18th Century expert--you first.
I can guarantee you that George Washington didn’t mean “liberal” the way you mean “liberal”.
That is why I cursed you, because you’re trying to use an American gold standard to bolster your very un-American (and in many cases anti-American) ideology and beliefs.
John was closer to the definition of what George Washington did not mean when he cited Kucinich--"Liberal"="Progressive"=Socialist/Communist/Marxist and that is why you felt compelled to try and shame him into retracting it.

JentheNeoCon - 24 February 2007 04:07 PM

jukeboxgrad - 24 February 2007 11:00 AM

horse - 22 February 2007 03:17 PM

Raptavio - 22 February 2007 01:44 PM

... So the brood of the Washington family spawned a dingdang lib’rul!

How entertaining, you have accurately portrayed that as a bad thing and in counter to the great man’s principles.

How entertaining that you would say that, since Washington said this:

As Mankind becomes more liberal, they will be more apt to allow that all those who conduct themselves as worthy members of the community are equally entitled to the protections of civil government. I hope ever to see America among the foremost nations of justice and liberality.

Here’s the problem with you pinko headaches:”...those who conduct themselves as worthy members of the community...”
The jury’s out on that one and it’s not looking good.
How dare America-hating scum like you quote our premier Founding Father to try and justify your stinking thinking!

Thats ok, I have juke as number three of four on the ignore list. I only see his ignorance when others quote him, which is only if they are pointing out one of his many errors, like the one above. GW’s liberal was being Christian; charitable, kind and protecting to those less fortunate or disadvantaged. Now liberal means being a hedonistic self abuser who demands respect for pontificating poor behaviour and taking value from the weak and timid.

Forgive me if I digress and talk about the GW the 1st.

I was educated in the 50s and 60s and in basically traditonal schools.  I loved history and read anything I could get my hands on about it and was particularly interested in the American presidents.  But, I must say that I was one of those who was brainwashed to think that George Washington was sort of a dunce jock guy who was too dumb to be anything but a soldier (after all i was a viet nam era adolescent who was told that all soldiers are basically stupid).  And so, I adopted the conventional wisdom that Abraham Lincoln was our greatest president.

Ironically, as I despise Hollywood, it was the made for tv movie called *The Crossing* that got me interested in learning more about GW.  And, there is a recently published biography which i read with great interest. 

He was indeed the indispensable man.  I know Jefferson is the hero of the left, but unlike Washington, he did not free his slaves upon his death (Washington freed those slaves which were his but not those who belonged to his wife..some may say that was a mistake but i call it respecting his wife’s financial indepedence) As no one was freeing slaves at the time i think you need to respect that gesture as completely beyond the societal pale and as perhaps an example he hoped others would follow. 

This was a man who was asked to be king and said no.  I wish he had lived in the White House so that his ghost could strike down those who have sullied its halls.

I am not a particularly religious person but i have to say that someone was blessing our country when that man chose to serve it.

For the record:

I happen to take a point of pride in my relation to the father of our country. I mentioned it because of that.

I did not intend in any way to provoke a heated debate in a thread where we should be giving our props to the man. Sorry for my part in that.