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Rudy & the Right
Posted: 04 December 2006 10:02 PM   [ Ignore ]  [ # 16 ]  
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Let’s go down your list of losses

FL: Rudy will gain 100K in new voters in Broward and PB County alone Bush didn’t get. No way he loses a state Bush won by 5 points
OH: We tried a conservative and a McCainiac in the offyear. You think Rudy could do worse? 
MT: Bush got 59%. You are figuring a lot of slippage
MO: Obviously you can’t win there just with the rural vote. Ask Jim Talent
IA: No one is safe there. It’s a 2 point state either way in presidential politics

Meanwhile, Rudy presents a great opportunity in PA, NJ, WI, and NH. States a “real conservative” won’t play at all in.

 
 
Posted: 05 December 2006 01:19 AM   [ Ignore ]  [ # 17 ]

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Meanwhile, Rudy presents a great opportunity in PA, NJ, WI, and NH. States a “real conservative” won’t play at all in.

You have made my point. 
As Rudy scores in Blue states he loses in Red states.
In fifteen months or less he will be out or deep in the pack.

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Posted: 05 December 2006 07:43 AM   [ Ignore ]  [ # 18 ]

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Charlie, based on your theory of politics were are already suck because barring an economic revival eclipsing “morning in America” I wouldn;t bet a plugged nickel we don;t run 118,000 votes worse in OH in ‘08 than in ‘04 running a Bush style candidate.

Ironically this is exactly the Reagan ‘84 strategy. Having crunched the EV’s they concluded that Mondale could not win without OH. And they carpet bombed the state with media and appearances. Unless we find a Blue state or two we can plausibly win we are on the receiving end.

Obviously Mondale lost the popular vote big, but had he gotten even he’d have never overcome the firewall Rollins left for him.
The Dems with a newly elected Governor will build their own OH firewall

Think Hillary won;t play in industrial middle America? That’s what the GOP braintrust thought in NY State, even against a standard issue GOP candidate like Rick Lazio. Her vote totals in Erie and Onondaga counties prove otherwise. No reason she can;t do likewise in Cuyahoga or Summit counties unless we change the dynamics in some fashion

 
 
Posted: 05 December 2006 08:49 PM   [ Ignore ]  [ # 19 ]  
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Rudy will be out of the running. 
He will not make it to the primary. 
There will be no electoral votes for Rudy.

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Posted: 05 December 2006 10:21 PM   [ Ignore ]  [ # 20 ]  
E. Burke
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Fine. Anyone else gonna pick off a Blue State, or will our 2008 election strategy resemble French military strategy circa 1940...think we can build a Maginot Line around Ohio to keep out Demcrats?

 
 
Posted: 14 December 2006 10:01 AM   [ Ignore ]  [ # 21 ]  
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Picture Newt as Prez and Rudy his powerful right hand man!!! :)

That would be a ticket I’d vote for!

 
 
Posted: 14 December 2006 09:23 PM   [ Ignore ]  [ # 22 ]  
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If Rudy can convince the religious to accept him, Sandbox, your solution is an election winner.

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Posted: 22 December 2006 01:56 PM   [ Ignore ]  [ # 23 ]  
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exsubmariner - 19 November 2006 02:05 PM

There are levels of gun control that are acceptable; I have to have a license to drive a car.

However, you don’t have a constitutional right to own or operate a car.

I have to have a commission to do my job, etc.  These are every day requirements for most people and are required for non-deadly events, yet to many on the right scream about any gun control laws as if their fingernails were being pulled out.

It’s that pesky “Bill of Rights” or whatever…

There are good laws (waiting period, no criminal history for example).

The Thirteenth Amendment allows for the “no criminal history” part to be constitutional, but a waiting period?

How would you like a waiting period to use your other constitutional rights?

Yeah, we want to go to church but our permit won’t allow us to attend for 30 days...and oh, I wrote a letter to the editor.  They’re filing a permit and it should show up in the paper sometime next month.

Just because the 2nd amendment (an amendment that I heartily applaud even if I no longer own a gun) allows us to own guns does not mean no restrictions, that is what the politcal process is for.

The problem is that placing restrictions on guns does nothing toward stopping crime.

More people die each year in automobile accidents but we don’t have a waiting period to buy one of them.

Rudy was for control of guns because he was trying to clean up a city with the worst crime in the country, of which gangers and their ilk were doing a lot of criminal activity.

Then maybe what he should have done was enforce the laws and stop allowing early releases to violent criminals.

His position was to make it harder for them to get guns and when they did get guns have a mechanism that would keep the guns from ending back on the street in thier hands.

Do you really believe that gun laws stop criminals from getting guns?  Gun laws almost MANDATE that only criminals will have guns.

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Posted: 23 December 2006 03:12 AM   [ Ignore ]  [ # 24 ]  
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Care to actually address my points instead of making a personal attack?  It should be easy if you are correct about the issue at hand…

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