Barak Obama has to be one of the luckiest presidential candidates ever. He had only to beat the other Democrat candidate in order to win the presidency. Hillary is a ‘dead man walking’ and waiting for the moment when Howard Dean signs the warrant for her death by a lethal injection of superdeligates.
John McCain is campaigning against himself. As he moves every day from extreme to greater extreme to prove his Democratic credentials he is turning most of the Republican party and Republican conservatives against him.
His greatest miscalculation is to imagine that if he is more liberal and more Dem than Obama Democrats will rush out to support him. At the same time he is foolish enough to think that he can lie that he is a conservative even as he trashes everything conservatives hold dear under his feet.
Many now believe that on the issue of immigration McCain is now to the left of Obama. He has taken the Catholic stance against birth control as his own dogma on immigration; that ‘all our illegal Latino brothers and sisters should eat at the table of life’ -the AMERICAN table of life and the taxpayers bread.
Very tellingly CNN opined that Obama took a page out of the Karl Rove playbook and is doing what President Bush did to get elected; appeal to the base, in GW’s case uber conservative and Christians, and in Obamas the liberal and left, and then dump them for the center as soon as he has enough momentum to take the White House.
And his evil, bitch of a wife won’t get in the way. Lincoln had an evil bitch of a wife as well. In Obama’s case MSM has Michelle already portrayed as the new Jackie O and the few of us on this forum who can see through that are just that; the few. Most Americans want to see her through rose-colored spectacles.
CNN predicts that the far-left and the anti-war movement are going to be out in the cold shouting “Wilma! Open this door Wilma!” like the stone-age tards that they are and that liberal advisors will get notice and a paycheck the moment Obama is in a powerful enough position to evict them from his campaign office.
It looks as though the next American president, who grew up in the ranks of the Mao Democrats, may be centering to a position like that of Ronald Reagan, who he both admires and said was a better President than Clinton.
It could be England all over again where Tony Blair took the leadership of the socialist Labour party only to declare himself a conservative on foreign policy and support the war. If CNN are right the real successor to Bush is Obama not McCain and the anti-war, terrorist loving, America hating left is going to get it’s ass kicked.
Nicely written post. I don’t agree with all of it, but it is an interesting and well written analysis. I really like the line about Mao Democrats. That’s great!
The point I do agree with is that Obama will now start tacking to the center, while McCain will continue leftward, alienating what few conservatives he has not already alienated, and failing miserably to pick up moderate and liberal voters. About the only voters from the other side McCain will attract are those red neck democrats who will simply never vote for a black.
The nail in McCain’s coffin with the rest of the conservatives in this country will be the evening of McCain’s address to “La Raza” in early July. The evening news that night will send most conservatives right over the edge.
I’m just curious as to whether or not during this speech to “La Raza”, McCain will offer to return the American southwest to Mexcio in return for the “hispanic” vote in November.
Well, I agree that McCain’s courting of La Raza is not going to win him the repubs. vote, nor will it win a heck of a lot of demo.votes. The illegal Mexician vote, not thats another question.
“CNN predicts that the far-left and the anti-war movement are going to beout in the cold shouting “Wilma! Open this door Wilma!” like the stone-age tards that they are and that liberal advisors will get notice and a paycheck the moment Obama is in a powerful enough position to evict them from his campaign office.”
If CNN is stupid enough to beleive the above, I would think it would go a long way toward understanding their ratings, even against the Bush Propaganda net work, Fauxnews.
Not sure where CNN stands, I will find out.
Oh old whatsername could be a bit of a problem, Cindy is kicking up a bit of dust for john McCain.
John McCain is campaigning against himself. As he moves every day from extreme to greater extreme to prove his Democratic credentials he is turning most of the Republican party and Republican conservatives against him.
John McCain has long since turned conservatives against him. Whether conservatives actually are “most of the Republican party” is something I have begun to wonder about these last few years.
Another element of this “turning against him” is his celebrated “maverick” status in the MSM.
But, sara, as usual, very fine post. I don’t agree with your support of McCain, but enjoy your thoughtful insight nonetheless.
Let’s see what McCain says to La Raza. Even Governor Schwarzentraitor himself told an assembly of Hispanic activists that Hispanics in California need to turn off the Spanish-language t.v. and get with the education and integration thing. (Some Hispanic broadcaster sharing the stage with him interrupted his speech to disagree.)
I’m not exactly holding my breath, but maybe, just maybe, he’ll tell them to quit thinking of themselves as separate and special, and suggest they get on with their American dream by joining the rest of us hard-working fools. He might even do a half-decent job of showing them that Republicans are more in step with the aspirations of people who drag their flea-bitten asses across the border to live a life in which you actually get paid for doing a little honest work, and who have traditions of religious faith and family values.
But to your first post, sarasara, it’s undoubtedly true that Obama is going to drop his uber-left support as soon as possible, and they’ll be mad and stunned as hell. I don’t think he’s going to be elected, because Americans just won’t do it. But those lefties banging on the door and yelling “Wiiilllmaaaa!” is something I’d love to see.
Nicely written post. I don’t agree with all of it, but it is an interesting and well written analysis. I really like the line about Mao Democrats. That’s great!
The point I do agree with is that Obama will now start tacking to the center, while McCain will continue leftward, alienating what few conservatives he has not already alienated, and failing miserably to pick up moderate and liberal voters. About the only voters from the other side McCain will attract are those red neck democrats who will simply never vote for a black.
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Barak Obama is only an African-American to the extent that Michelle has tried to fashion him. His roots are as an outsider; basically a white kid with a black face from a white background who lived outside the real US in his formative years.
Michelle tried to give him a sense of ‘negritude’ in the black church, but whatever the associatins he had with her roots or with his mothers far-left liberal roots Obama never acted for the left nor as I’ve said before “lit any molotov cocktails.” He rose from the left but his heart may be somewhere else.
Yes, he has used the radical liberal left who are so worthless and using themselves that he need feel no guilt for it, in order to seize the ‘base’ from Clinton.
I’ll be watching if a new Obama begins to emerge from his cocoon as soon as Hillary has been exterminated by Dean.
But to your first post, sarasara, it’s undoubtedly true that Obama is going to drop his uber-left support as soon as possible, and they’ll be mad and stunned as hell. I don’t think he’s going to be elected, because Americans just won’t do it. But those lefties banging on the door and yelling “Wiiilllmaaaa!” is something I’d love to see.
McCain has his best chance against Obama. Since Hillary was essentially a male McCain, she would have beat him by 10 points in Nov. Obviously, McCain has gone out of his way to infuriate Republicans. His phone messages during the primary that he was the ‘true conservative’ were laughable, and insulting.
I’ve said, repeatedly, that - JOHN McCAIN IS UNELECTABLE!
Many, even on this forum, disagreed. I said, the GOP can only win be replacing a loser like McCain with another at the convention. It’s the only place it can be done.
But if McCain holds on, with the full support of key RINOs, just as Dole was literally handed the nomination, he does have his best chance facing Obama. This is Limbaugh’s point, too, whether or not there was anything to his ‘chaos’ strategy. The point of that, he said, was to get the mud-slinging Clintons to sling the mud. The problem is, in politics, problems can also be ‘vetted’ just to ‘go away’. This was what Clinton’s PR in the leftist press did for all either years of his ‘Presidency’, so-called. All the mud dries up, blows away, and is never introduced again. Limbaugh may or may not understand that.
The problem, for example, faced by Kerry, who had overwhelming leftist establishment support, was that the Swifties didn’t hit with the same complaint, but that it was a series of ongoing exposes, first Christmas in Cambodia, then another. And Kerry’s team made it worse by sending ‘in the lawyers’ instead of dealing with things as a peace-maker, reaching out to his critics. But this thing with Obama’s friends and teachers is pretty much done. There are no more exposes about them. They will quickly be forgotten.
I think what will trouble some about Obama is does he really stand for America, or against. And this is where he could fall into the Kerry team’s trap. He could answer one way, one day, and try another tack, then next. He could give the impression of covering up his true views. But there are many. And so there are many stories, and potential exposes, to come in answering that question if he isn’t up front in a thorough way. It will come down to questions about American deployment in Afganistan and Iraq, matters of taxes and oil exploration when diesel is now the most expensive fuel at the pump. And so on. Beneath it all will be the question, is Obama a self-destructive personality. Is he ultimately going to be FOR America, or against. Not all voters will care. But many not zealous leftist Dem will wonder, at some level, about how Obama really sees the future and whether he really is about the best interests of the USA.
McCain’s only advantage is that he’s the white candidate in a country where there are more white racists than black racists. But that’s a huge advantage, one that could well overcome all of McCain’s disadvantages (his pro-war policies, his flipflopping on issues, his admitted ignorance of economics, his history of being on the take (e.g. the Keating Five), his vote against Martin Luther King Day, his age, etc.).
But to your first post, sarasara, it’s undoubtedly true that Obama is going to drop his uber-left support as soon as possible, and they’ll be mad and stunned as hell. I don’t think he’s going to be elected, because Americans just won’t do it. But those lefties banging on the door and yelling “Wiiilllmaaaa!” is something I’d love to see.
McCain has his best chance against Obama. Since Hillary was essentially a male McCain, she would have beat him by 10 points in Nov. Obviously, McCain has gone out of his way to infuriate Republicans. His phone messages during the primary that he was the ‘true conservative’ were laughable, and insulting.
I’ve said, repeatedly, that - JOHN McCAIN IS UNELECTABLE!
Many, even on this forum, disagreed. I said, the GOP can only win be replacing a loser like McCain with another at the convention. It’s the only place it can be done.
But if McCain holds on, with the full support of key RINOs, just as Dole was literally handed the nomination, he does have his best chance facing Obama. This is Limbaugh’s point, too, whether or not there was anything to his ‘chaos’ strategy. The point of that, he said, was to get the mud-slinging Clintons to sling the mud. The problem is, in politics, problems can also be ‘vetted’ just to ‘go away’. This was what Clinton’s PR in the leftist press did for all either years of his ‘Presidency’, so-called. All the mud dries up, blows away, and is never introduced again. Limbaugh may or may not understand that.
The problem, for example, faced by Kerry, who had overwhelming leftist establishment support, was that the Swifties didn’t hit with the same complaint, but that it was a series of ongoing exposes, first Christmas in Cambodia, then another. And Kerry’s team made it worse by sending ‘in the lawyers’ instead of dealing with things as a peace-maker, reaching out to his critics. But this thing with Obama’s friends and teachers is pretty much done. There are no more exposes about them. They will quickly be forgotten.
I think what will trouble some about Obama is does he really stand for America, or against. And this is where he could fall into the Kerry team’s trap. He could answer one way, one day, and try another tack, then next. He could give the impression of covering up his true views. But there are many. And so there are many stories, and potential exposes, to come in answering that question if he isn’t up front in a thorough way. It will come down to questions about American deployment in Afganistan and Iraq, matters of taxes and oil exploration when diesel is now the most expensive fuel at the pump. And so on. Beneath it all will be the question, is Obama a self-destructive personality. Is he ultimately going to be FOR America, or against. Not all voters will care. But many not zealous leftist Dem will wonder, at some level, about how Obama really sees the future and whether he really is about the best interests of the USA.
Operation chaos was a failure. Only five percent more Republicams voted for Clinton in Indiana which shows a massive swing of the ‘perceived vote’ (according to operation chaos) to Obama.
I hope if he does win the presidency he can control his wife better than Clinton could control her husband. He may turn out after all to be presidential material, but she ain’t no lady let alone first lady.
McCain is unelectable, there is no other candidate.
You are right, its the cards that Obama shows that will say if McCain has any chance.
McCain lost my support when he failed one of his most important tests; to appoint a credible advisor on the economy. The woman he appointed came up with the ‘gas holiday’ con and was not fired.
Once Obama has shaken Hillary off we are going to see one more skin peeled off the onion that is Barak Obama and begin to see who he really is. His ditching of the left cannot be too sudden, the election is still far away, but we shall watch for smokesignals from his campfire.
McCain’s only advantage is that he’s the white candidate in a country where there are more white racists than black racists. But that’s a huge advantage, one that could well overcome all of McCain’s disadvantages (his pro-war policies, his flipflopping on issues, his admitted ignorance of economics, his history of being on the take (e.g. the Keating Five), his vote against Martin Luther King Day, his age, etc.).
“McCain’s only advantage is that he’s the white candidate in a country where there are more white racists than black racists.”
Yep, that about sums up McCain’s candidacy in 08. The problem I have with Obama is that I think he has had a rather privledged upbringing, not that I find anything wrong with priveledge, but in Obama’s case, his views are idiologically left; not from having thought them out thoroughly, or from having them be developed by his life experiences, they have simply been acquired by rote; he’s what people call a latte liberal. He’s a leftist, a Mao Democrat to quote Sara, simply because that was the cool thing to be in the circles in which he traveled.
It’s a shame, because the guy is overflowing with personality, charm, good looks and a fantastic speaking style. He’s obviously very intelligent as well. It’s just that his letist economic theories have been tried and have failed. Everywhere they’ve been tried. And then there’s his thinking about taxes; ‘I just want it to be fair, I don’t care if my policies raises less revenue’; I mean come on guy, deal with pragmatism and reality for once.
McCain on the other hand is dumb as dirt. There’s no intelligence there, no scholarship, nothing. He might has well be a robot. “Hail to the Chief”, “Battle Hymn of the Republic”, political correctness, and whatever can get him elected. He’s knows nothing more than what he sees on the evening news or what his advisors, who might read the papers, tell him. McCain wants to be POTUS because he was incapable of becoming an Admiral like his father and grandfather before him. McCain wants to play Field Marshall; a glorified Secretary of Defense; he will have lots of toys to play with, admirals and generals will have to salute him, that’s all McCain wants. The economy, what’s that? National Security would just be a means by which McCain would acquire more toys with which to play.
Impeachie is correct about McCain in that he is clueless on economic matters. I don’t think he’s ever given anything dealing with earning a living, investing, capitalism, marxism, socialism, collectivism, the stock market, any thought whatsoever.
He comes from a military background where he was basically taken care of by the military in every way imagineable. Hell, his meals were prepared for him for god’s sake. Then he marries a rich guy’s daughter, and gets his ass into the most exclusive club in the world, the US Senate.
McCain is about himself. That’s one thing, but “himself” in this instance happens to be a low level moron.
McCain’s only advantage is that he’s the white candidate in a country where there are more white racists than black racists.
I don’t agree. There are far more black racists in this country than white racists. You see, during the time since MLK, whites were actually teaching their children the lessons of MLK. You know, all men were created equal. Blacks, on the other hand, have been teaching their children that whitey is bad and they have stopped teaching that. Doubt that? Look at the standing ovation that Wright got.
Blacks will not vote for McCain because he is white. Period.
However, whites, who happen to agree with Obama’s socialist agenda, will vote for Obama. Color will make no difference.
McCain’s only advantage is that he’s the white candidate in a country where there are more white racists than black racists. But that’s a huge advantage, one that could well overcome all of McCain’s disadvantages (his pro-war policies, his flipflopping on issues, his admitted ignorance of economics, his history of being on the take (e.g. the Keating Five), his vote against Martin Luther King Day, his age, etc.).
“McCain’s only advantage is that he’s the white candidate in a country where there are more white racists than black racists.”
Yep, that about sums up McCain’s candidacy in 08. The problem I have with Obama is that I think he has had a rather privledged upbringing, not that I find anything wrong with priveledge, but in Obama’s case, his views are idiologically left; not from having thought them out thoroughly, or from having them be developed by his life experiences, they have simply been acquired by rote; he’s what people call a latte liberal. He’s a leftist, a Mao Democrat to quote Sara, simply because that was the cool thing to be in the circles in which he traveled.
It’s a shame, because the guy is overflowing with personality, charm, good looks and a fantastic speaking style. He’s obviously very intelligent as well. It’s just that his letist economic theories have been tried and have failed. Everywhere they’ve been tried. And then there’s his thinking about taxes; ‘I just want it to be fair, I don’t care if my policies raises less revenue’; I mean come on guy, deal with pragmatism and reality for once.
McCain on the other hand is dumb as dirt. There’s no intelligence there, no scholarship, nothing. He might has well be a robot. “Hail to the Chief”, “Battle Hymn of the Republic”, political correctness, and whatever can get him elected. He’s knows nothing more than what he sees on the evening news or what his advisors, who might read the papers, tell him. McCain wants to be POTUS because he was incapable of becoming an Admiral like his father and grandfather before him. McCain wants to play Field Marshall; a glorified Secretary of Defense; he will have lots of toys to play with, admirals and generals will have to salute him, that’s all McCain wants. The economy, what’s that? National Security would just be a means by which McCain would acquire more toys with which to play.
Impeachie is correct about McCain in that he is clueless on economic matters. I don’t think he’s ever given anything dealing with earning a living, investing, capitalism, marxism, socialism, collectivism, the stock market, any thought whatsoever.
He comes from a military background where he was basically taken care of by the military in every way imagineable. Hell, his meals were prepared for him for god’s sake. Then he marries a rich guy’s daughter, and gets his ass into the most exclusive club in the world, the US Senate.
McCain is about himself. That’s one thing, but “himself” in this instance happens to be a low level moron.
Thanks Mick, I agree with much of what you say but whatever faults we may find Obama to have when finally ‘the unknown quantity becomes the known quantity’ I think it would be unfair to blame him for a background he inherited from his mother and wife and his environment.
Just because a kid grows up on a street full of dealers and pimps and his circle are dealers and pimps does not make him culpable for their sins. It is what that person becomes when they grow up and move on that we can judge them on. No one has accused him of any political wrongdoing in his early times.
I would hope that towards the end he shows the intelligence and education you speak of and -which was evident in that clip- in the advisors he chooses.
I hope that he has some rationale about Iraq. OK I support the President 200% on Iraq but there is always room for an honest critique. He cannot offer us a defeat.
Let’s see what McCain says to La Raza. Even Governor Schwarzentraitor himself told an assembly of Hispanic activists that Hispanics in California need to turn off the Spanish-language t.v. and get with the education and integration thing. (Some Hispanic broadcaster sharing the stage with him interrupted his speech to disagree.)
I’m not exactly holding my breath, but maybe, just maybe, he’ll tell them to quit thinking of themselves as separate and special, and suggest they get on with their American dream by joining the rest of us hard-working fools. He might even do a half-decent job of showing them that Republicans are more in step with the aspirations of people who drag their flea-bitten asses across the border to live a life in which you actually get paid for doing a little honest work, and who have traditions of religious faith and family values.
You’ve missed, ommitted, or just chose to ignore a very important point. Members of “La Raza” do not have an “American dream”. When “La Raza” members dream, it is of the Reconquista, of Aztlan, or the death of America. They do not dream of anything positive about America from an American’s point of view.
McCain’s only advantage is that he’s the white candidate in a country where there are more white racists than black racists. But that’s a huge advantage, one that could well overcome all of McCain’s disadvantages (his pro-war policies, his flipflopping on issues, his admitted ignorance of economics, his history of being on the take (e.g. the Keating Five), his vote against Martin Luther King Day, his age, etc.).
“McCain’s only advantage is that he’s the white candidate in a country where there are more white racists than black racists.”
Yep, that about sums up McCain’s candidacy in 08. The problem I have with Obama is that I think he has had a rather privledged upbringing, not that I find anything wrong with priveledge, but in Obama’s case, his views are idiologically left; not from having thought them out thoroughly, or from having them be developed by his life experiences, they have simply been acquired by rote; he’s what people call a latte liberal. He’s a leftist, a Mao Democrat to quote Sara, simply because that was the cool thing to be in the circles in which he traveled.
It’s a shame, because the guy is overflowing with personality, charm, good looks and a fantastic speaking style. He’s obviously very intelligent as well. It’s just that his letist economic theories have been tried and have failed. Everywhere they’ve been tried. And then there’s his thinking about taxes; ‘I just want it to be fair, I don’t care if my policies raises less revenue’; I mean come on guy, deal with pragmatism and reality for once.
McCain on the other hand is dumb as dirt. There’s no intelligence there, no scholarship, nothing. He might has well be a robot. “Hail to the Chief”, “Battle Hymn of the Republic”, political correctness, and whatever can get him elected. He’s knows nothing more than what he sees on the evening news or what his advisors, who might read the papers, tell him. McCain wants to be POTUS because he was incapable of becoming an Admiral like his father and grandfather before him. McCain wants to play Field Marshall; a glorified Secretary of Defense; he will have lots of toys to play with, admirals and generals will have to salute him, that’s all McCain wants. The economy, what’s that? National Security would just be a means by which McCain would acquire more toys with which to play.
Impeachie is correct about McCain in that he is clueless on economic matters. I don’t think he’s ever given anything dealing with earning a living, investing, capitalism, marxism, socialism, collectivism, the stock market, any thought whatsoever.
He comes from a military background where he was basically taken care of by the military in every way imagineable. Hell, his meals were prepared for him for god’s sake. Then he marries a rich guy’s daughter, and gets his ass into the most exclusive club in the world, the US Senate.
McCain is about himself. That’s one thing, but “himself” in this instance happens to be a low level moron.
Thanks Mick, I agree with much of what you say but whatever faults we may find Obama to have when finally ‘the unknown quantity becomes the known quantity’ I think it would be unfair to blame him for a background he inherited from his mother and wife and his environment.
Just because a kid grows up on a street full of dealers and pimps and his circle are dealers and pimps does not make him culpable for their sins. It is what that person becomes when they grow up and move on that we can judge them on. No one has accused him of any political wrongdoing in his early times.
I would hope that towards the end he shows the intelligence and education you speak of and -which was evident in that clip- in the advisors he chooses.
I hope that he has some rationale about Iraq. OK I support the President 200% on Iraq but there is always room for an honest critique. He cannot offer us a defeat.
There’s the rub Sara. There’s the misconception, the urban myth, if you will. Obama did not grow up in the streets. He did not grow up surrounded by prostitutes and pimps. He grew up going to very priveledge and exclusive schools, in Hawaii, in Indonesia, and later in America at the most exclusive universities in the world.
Obama garnered his political philosophy from his leftist mother and from his leftist, intellectually elitist friends. Obama choose, as a path towards power, the role of “community activist”. Anybody here ever run into one of these “community activists”? They are frauds almost without exception. Some of you must have seen this Erich Michael Dyson on Fox several times. Ran into him personally in Atlanta in the 90s. “Community Activist”, who like Obama, was looking for a ticket to fame and political power. He wasn’t as successful as Obama, but he got his sorry ass up the ladder well enough. Obama chose Trinity church in Chicago for the same reason. For his own political advancement, cridibility and power.
But back to Obama. His leftist poltical beliefs have again, been simply acquired by rote, or by absorption if you will, like an amoeba. Being a leftist intellectual was the cool thing to be in his circles. His circles did not include pimps and dealers from some grade B ghetto flick. Like William Ayers and Bernadine Dorn, Obama’s circles of leftist intellectuals came from the well-healed elite of lefist society in America.
McCain’s only advantage is that he’s the white candidate in a country where there are more white racists than black racists.
I don’t agree. There are far more black racists in this country than white racists. You see, during the time since MLK, whites were actually teaching their children the lessons of MLK. You know, all men were created equal. Blacks, on the other hand, have been teaching their children that whitey is bad and they have stopped teaching that. Doubt that? Look at the standing ovation that Wright got.
Blacks will not vote for McCain because he is white. Period.
However, whites, who happen to agree with Obama’s socialist agenda, will vote for Obama. Color will make no difference.
In relative terms, since blacks are only 11% of the population, there are probably more white racists than black racists. All those “working class blue collar whites” the MSM was talking about the last few weeks, who have run from Obama are probably what Impeachie is classifying as white racists. They won’t vote for a black guy even if he’s a democrat.
I agree with him. I think that’s McCain’s best shot at getting elected. That and the fact that “hispanics” hate blacks more than they hate gringos.
