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Charm and evasion—the Huckabee way
Posted: 11 January 2008 12:28 PM   [ Ignore ]  
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Mike Huckabee’s emergence as a first-tier candidate had much to do with the charm he displayed during early debates and, presumably, on the campaig

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Posted: 11 January 2008 12:54 PM   [ Ignore ]  [ # 1 ]

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“Mike Huckabee’s emergence as a first-tier candidate had much to do with the charm he displayed during early debates and, presumably, on the campaign trail. But now that he’s under fire, something that goes with first-tier territory, Huckabee is also proving himself to be a master of evasion.”

BUT ...

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He was able to correctly quote from the Bible last night.

THAT impressed the **** outa me!

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Posted: 11 January 2008 12:58 PM   [ Ignore ]  [ # 2 ]

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I generally agree with many of the positions taken by Powerline editors, but on Huckabee, you guys are barking up the wrong tree.  There is no way that Huckabee will be elected President.  If Republicans do drink the Kool Aid and nominate the guy, look for a Democrat in the White House for eight years.

I do not understand your ignoring of Fred Thompson.  The man is the most conservative, most consistent and most principled man in the race.  He is also the most “Presidential”.  I noted that you did not include him in your latest poll.

Maybe you should have waited til after last night’s debate.....my guess is that he would have then made the list.

Wake up.....you guys are missing out.

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Posted: 11 January 2008 01:01 PM   [ Ignore ]  [ # 3 ]

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And yet this man has huge numbers of supporters. This makes me more convinced than ever that our #1 domestic priority is our educational system. Not only are students not learning basic facts of history and economics; they’re not learning to think critically.

Bush 41 made a poor showing of being “the education president,” and Bush 42, although he spoke very well and wisely about the importance to America’s economy of an educated and flexible workforce, has evidently been busy with other things . . . among them seeing to it that California classrooms get half the material taught in a day because teachers have to say everything twice, once in Spanish and once in English. The Republican candidates are talking tough of course—Fred Thompson the toughest when he names the NEA as the enemy—but which one of them will fight for the radical changes we need? My own state governor, Arnold S, talked reform briefly and then gave in to the teachers’ union with barely a fight.

I don’t mean to hijack this thread with my pet cause; it’s just that what Huckabee’s popularity means to me is that we’ve got a nation with a lot of dangerously dumb voters.

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Posted: 11 January 2008 01:14 PM   [ Ignore ]  [ # 4 ]  
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@Calie,

I think no one here thinks Huckabee can be elected Prez; what worries us it that he could get the nomination. What also worries us (me, anyway) is that his popularity in the Republican party indicates that something is wrong.

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Posted: 11 January 2008 01:24 PM   [ Ignore ]  [ # 5 ]  
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Miss Orange - 11 January 2008 01:14 PM

@Calie,

I think no one here thinks Huckabee can be elected Prez; what worries us it that he could get the nomination. What also worries us (me, anyway) is that his popularity in the Republican party indicates that something is wrong.

Your right, Hucarterbee can’t and shouldn’t get elected Prez.

 
 
Posted: 11 January 2008 01:33 PM   [ Ignore ]  [ # 6 ]

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Well,the Huckster put the goober back in gubernatorial...I simply can’t fathom how any genuine conservative ( and I date my own credentials back to working for Barry Goldwater as a teenager in ‘64) can possibly believe this clown is one of us....he’s basically a pro life Democrat in drag....and the Clinton machine would chew him up and spit him out this fall..and we would lose even more seats in the House and Senate...the sooner people wake up to that,the sooner we can get past this nonsense and nominate an electable Republican in the more or less conservative camp....personally I favor a reverse gonzo ticket...Thompson/Hunter

 
 
Posted: 11 January 2008 01:37 PM   [ Ignore ]  [ # 7 ]

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FRED THOMPSON:
This is a battle for the heart and soul of the Republican Party and its future. On the one hand, you have the Reagan revolution. You have the Reagan coalition of limited government and strong national security.

On the other hand, you have the direction that Governor Huckabee would take us in. He would be a Christian leader, but he would also bring about liberal economic policies, liberal foreign policies. He believes we have an arrogant foreign policy and the tradition of, blame America first. He believes that Guantanamo should be closed down and those enemy combatants brought here to the United States to find their way into the court system eventually. He believes in taxpayer-funded programs for illegals, as he did in Arkansas. He has the endorsement of the National Education Association, and the NEA said it was because of his opposition to vouchers. He said he would sign a bill that would ban smoking nationwide. So much for federalism. So much for states’ rights. So much for individual rights.

That’s not the model of the Reagan coalition, that’s the model of the Democratic Party.

I’m so tired of Fred Thompson.  I know he’s been out of the game for a while but in case he forgot we already have liberal economic policies in place.  Prescription drug coverage and No Child Left Behind are just two of the worst examples.  Thompson talks about liberal foreign policies?  We’re in the middle of the costliest kind of liberal foreign policy (i.e. nation building) since WWII. 

Nevertheless, I’ll try to answer his criticisms. 

Governors have to govern.  It’s a simple fact that they represent 100% of the people and not just the percent who voted in favor.  That said, Huckabee spent tax dollars on things that give people opportunities to succeed.  He spent money to educate people so they can learn and become more productive citizens.  He spent money on roads and infrastructure so people and businesses can move goods and services efficiently and effectively.  These two things are essential for a community/state/nation to improve.  Government ought to provide people opportunities to better their lives.  It’s why I think libraries are essential for a community.  It gives everyone access to bettering their lives. 

As for Thompson’s critique of education dollars going to the children of illegal immigrants (who, if born here, are citizens) then I agree with Huckabee that we shouldn’t punish kids for what their parents did.  Additionally, we’re a nation hungry for highly-skilled workers.  So if we can create an opportunity for someone to better their lives and improve our nation, while simultaneously helping that person assimilate into the great American melting pot - I’m in favor.  By the way, I’m pretty sure Reagan would have sided with Huckabee on this one. 

Huckabee didn’t say ‘we’ have an arrogant foreign policy.  He said this administration has an arrogant approach to foreign policy.  Having voted for the President twice (and attending the second inaugural) I tend to agree.  The Bush administration has always carried itself with a degree of arrogance.  The insular circle of advisers and demands of loyalty always struck me as a poor way to manage.  Rumsfeld’s refusing to listen to his generals in the start-up of the war as they asked for more troops.  The foreign policy game has always been played a little differently.  There’s a history and culture to statecraft that is honored and respected by those on the inside.  Bush refused to play by declaring that you’re either with us or against us.  Granted, it’s wholly within his right to do so, but it was an arrogant move.  And nowhere has Huckabee ‘blamed America first’.  That’s a cowardly sound-bite and nothing more. 

I don’t know what should be done with Guantanamo.  The decision is not as easy as either side portrays.

There’s a tremendous amount of sense to a national smoking ban.  The Republican Governor of Minnesota (and likely McCain VP) signed a bill banning smoking in public places.  On average, the typical smoker is poorer and less well-educated.  On average, the poorer and less-educated end up on public health care assistance.  If we can limit the number of smokers who use government run health care then we can reduce the amount of money taxpayers are forced to shell out each year.  Although, I’m sympathetic to Thompson’s federalism argument. 

But let’s not get carried away with these appeals to Reagan’s legacy.  It was never as pure as Thompson thinks.  Huckabee’s for an effective government and strong national defense.  He’s got a record of success and a personality that’s appealing.  Is Huckabee the best Republican?  No.  Of the top five candidates, he’s better than the rest and he’s my choice.

 
 
Posted: 11 January 2008 01:57 PM   [ Ignore ]  [ # 8 ]  
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"Charm and Evasion”

Sounds like strategy that has won before.  My recollection is that Bill Clinton used a similar approach in 1992 and served 8 years in office. 

We may not agree with Huckabee, but something is clicking between he and some of the public.  Will it last?  We don’t know.  The GOP had better pay attention or there will be a Democrat in office 12 months from now.

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Posted: 11 January 2008 03:35 PM   [ Ignore ]  [ # 9 ]

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Mike Huckabee was touched a nerve with the American public.

No matter how many times you tell us how great the war is but we have to put on the credit card.

No matter how many times you tell us how great the economy is.

No matter how many times you tell us we just can’t raise taxes.

You can’t keep putting lipstick on that same PIG.

The working class Republican knows better. And they know that aristocrats like Mitt Romney and the global wealth funded candidates like Guiliani don’t give a sh*t about regular Americans!

It’s time for your neoliberals to stop preying on the American people, promoting unrest around the world and claiming that destroying social security would be the best thing since sliced bread.

If the economy depends on the consumer, then stop screwing the middle class.

It is very simple!

 
 
Posted: 11 January 2008 04:06 PM   [ Ignore ]  [ # 10 ]  
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I thinjk it is going to be McCain-huckabee and Hil wins.
all theexcitement and “mo” is on the Donks side. There is tiredness and ennui, and trudging along on the Gop side.

Donks win.

 
 
Posted: 11 January 2008 06:59 PM   [ Ignore ]  [ # 11 ]

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Neither Huckabee nor McCain will get this conservative’s vote. Romney’s my choice, but I would vote for Giuliani or Thompson to keep the Dims out of the White House.

However, I’ll sit it out before I’ll vote for the “Magic (false) Christian” or the Grumpy Old RINO.

Go Mitt!

 
 
Posted: 11 January 2008 09:13 PM   [ Ignore ]  [ # 12 ]

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I too have been hoping for Thompson to emerge from the pack and I’ve been astonished that Huck got the “Populist Conservative” label. He seemed like another Bill Clinton to me from day one and I cannot for the life of me understand how the public keeps missing it. He never has answered questions and he is not Conservative. When I was younger he would have been called a Southern Democrat. Like the poster before, perhaps the education system is at fault--in which case we are now Rome and our time is up.

 
 
Posted: 11 January 2008 09:22 PM   [ Ignore ]  [ # 13 ]

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Actually, Fred Thompson nailed the Huckster. He is a Democrat. Or perhaps a Dixiecrat, as the last post suggested. And we all know what Democrats are ........ socialists of another stripe.

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Posted: 11 January 2008 10:32 PM   [ Ignore ]  [ # 14 ]

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The charming Mr. Huckabee was on Joe Scarborough’s PMSNBC show and suggested that perhaps Fred needs a dose of Metamucil to calm his anger. No refutation of Thompson’s honest commentary on Huck’s record, just cheap shots.

You can take the country boy out of Arkansas, but you can’t make him think.

 
 
Posted: 12 January 2008 09:16 AM   [ Ignore ]  [ # 15 ]

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Huckabee is anything but a Christian leader.  I’m an evangelical Christian - Southern Baptist specifically.  One of the jobs of a preacher is to proclaim the truth regardless of how unpleasant that truth is.  Huckabee is good at side stepping giving straight answers, just like Bill Clinton.  I dont think Huckabee is lying yet, at least not outright, just evasive half lies.  He starts off with a lame joke then hands out a lame answer to the question.
And I have another problem - How can a man, who claims to be called by God to the ministry walk away from his calling to wallow in the dirt and corruption of politics?  Yes, God can tell you when a job is finished and it’s time to move on, but Huckabee never said that was the case.  He’s a fraud as far as I’m concerned.

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