John Hagee is an evangelist preacher whose divisive comments have been condemned by “the Speaker of the House, the chairman of the DNC, Catholic groups on the left, Catholic groups on the right, and Jewish groups.” Hagee has endorsed John McCain but, unlike, say, David Duke endorsing a Republican, McCain actively sought out Hagee’s endorsement. Surely the “liberal media” would give this at least as much attention as they gave Barack Obama and Rev. Wright. Wouldn’t they? How many stories have run about McCain soliciting Hagee’s endorsement?
Washington Post — Zero
New York Times — Zero
Los Angeles Times — Zero
Boston Globe — Zero
Chicago Tribune — Zero
USA Today — Zero
Wall Street Journal — Zero
Hat tip to the Washington Monthly, linking to the Carpetbagger Report.
In your thread title it says he has “ties to McCain” but in your post the best you could come up with is that McCain sought his endorsement. That’s not much of a tie. It’s not even worth mentioning compared with the ties that Obama has with Wright. And that’s why those news organizations aren’t mentioning it. End of story. Also, it’s strange that you don’t have quotes from this preacher. Why is that?
In your thread title it says he has “ties to McCain” but in your post the best you could come up with is that McCain sought his endorsement. That’s not much of a tie.
He endorsed McCain. McCain wanted his endorsement. That’s a tie.
Also, it’s strange that you don’t have quotes from this preacher. Why is that?
Because this is the internet and you can provide links for people to read.
Well, if the liberal media aren’t going to cover a right-wing crank who John McCain seems to want on his side, the conservative blogs certainly aren’t going to, either. So you can go out and google him, and learn that he has earned millions of dollars from his San Antonio megachurch, the Cornerstone Church. He believes that the Bible is telling us to attack Iran, and that the United States will face China in a final apocalyptic battle in Israel, but Jesus will appear on a white horse to sweep all sinners away.
Hagee thinks Harry Potter is sinful witchcraft, that the Roman Catholic church is “A Godless theology of hate that no one dared try to stop for a thousand years [and] produced a harvest of hate.” He has said that hurricane Katrina was God’s punishment for sins in New Orleans, specifically calling out a “homosexual parade.”
Now, crackpot preachers are a dime a dozen in America, and always have been. But if the mass media are dominated by liberals, wouldn’t you expect a few of these comments to get coverage when the guy who said them is being courted by a presidential candidate?
But if the mass media are dominated by liberals, wouldn’t you expect a few of these comments to get coverage when the guy who said them is being courted by a presidential candidate?
None of those those statements you mentioned, as wacky and outrageous as they are, are in the same ballpark for Americans as blaming AIDS on genocidal white scientists or yelling “God damned America”.
Also, how was McCain “courting” him exactly? Your whole attack hinges on that being a major tie, but so far it has been left vague. Whatever it means, it certainly doesn’t mean that he was McCain’s spiritual mentor, that McCain was a member of his church (let alone for twenty years!) etc. No, I just don’t think this has legs, sorry.
Wow. ‘Condemned’ by Nancy Pelosi and Howard Dean? I haven’t heard the good reverend’s positions, but I’m thinking he might be worth a long listen. Perhaps even send him a few bucks.
None of those those statements you mentioned, as wacky and outrageous as they are, are in the same ballpark for Americans as blaming AIDS on genocidal white scientists or yelling “God damned America”.
Maybe they are, maybe they aren’t. The media coverage for sure has not been “in the same ballpark” as the media coverage of Rev. Wright.
Also, how was McCain “courting” him exactly? Your whole attack hinges on that being a major tie, but so far it has been left vague.
1. If you don’t want to read the story, don’t read it, but don’t act like I’m the one being “vague.”
2. My “attack” is not on the Rev. Hagee. If people want to listen to wackos who derive foreign policy from the book of Esther, that is their right. This is the “media bias” area. My point is that the supposedly “liberal” media gave us Obama and Wright 24-7 for weeks, and has completely ignored a controversial preacher who has endorsed McCain.
Those are political blogs at media sites, not at all the same as news stories. The only two that are journalistic reports are Reuters and AP and the fact that they weren’t picked up by major media outlets just proves my point. Even coming up with a handful of actual news stories would not disprove my point.
Those are political blogs at media sites, not at all the same as news stories. The only two that are journalistic reports are Reuters and AP and the fact that they weren’t picked up by major media outlets just proves my point. Even coming up with a handful of actual news stories would not disprove my point.
Vlad, you are really, really reaching for this one, and you won’t be successful. The reality is, the reverend (I use that term lightly)Wright has been Obama’s close personal friend, close personal mentor, and his pastor for 20 years. That is a deep and abiding personal relationship between a presidential hopeful and a virulent, despicable, anti-American activist.
McCain, if he did indeed seek Hagee’s endorsement, probably did so because Hagee is a Christian (as is McClain) and he reaches tens of millions of households every week with his television program. BTW, McCain didn’t sit in Hagee’s church week after week listening to his sermons.
HUGE difference between the two “ties” Vlad. Acorns and Watermelons.
HUGE difference between the two “ties” Vlad. Acorns and Watermelons.
No, there’s a huge difference between our opinions of the people involved, but the simple fact is that in both cases we are talking about a politician and a preacher who have forged a relationship, with both sides being completely aware of what the other one is about. Now, we can argue the relative merits or lack of merits of Wright and Hagee, but that would be another thread.
If the mainstream media were in fact liberal, were in fact committed to electing a Democrat over a Republican, as Powerline tells us every day, we would have had wall-to-wall stories about Hagee and few or any about Wright.
HUGE difference between the two “ties” Vlad. Acorns and Watermelons.
No, there’s a huge difference between our opinions of the people involved, but the simple fact is that in both cases we are talking about a politician and a preacher who have forged a relationship, with both sides being completely aware of what the other one is about. Now, we can argue the relative merits or lack of merits of Wright and Hagee, but that would be another thread.
If the mainstream media were in fact liberal, were in fact committed to electing a Democrat over a Republican, as Powerline tells us every day, we would have had wall-to-wall stories about Hagee and few or any about Wright.
HUGE difference between the two “ties” Vlad. Acorns and Watermelons.
No, there’s a huge difference between our opinions of the people involved, but the simple fact is that in both cases we are talking about a politician and a preacher who have forged a relationship, with both sides being completely aware of what the other one is about. Now, we can argue the relative merits or lack of merits of Wright and Hagee, but that would be another thread.
If the mainstream media were in fact liberal, were in fact committed to electing a Democrat over a Republican, as Powerline tells us every day, we would have had wall-to-wall stories about Hagee and few or any about Wright.
vlad, you are just being stubborn. Talk to us after 20 years of McCain’s worshipping with this guy and enlisting him as his spiritual advisor, okay?
HUGE difference between the two “ties” Vlad. Acorns and Watermelons.
No, there’s a huge difference between our opinions of the people involved, but the simple fact is that in both cases we are talking about a politician and a preacher who have forged a relationship, with both sides being completely aware of what the other one is about. Now, we can argue the relative merits or lack of merits of Wright and Hagee, but that would be another thread.
If the mainstream media were in fact liberal, were in fact committed to electing a Democrat over a Republican, as Powerline tells us every day, we would have had wall-to-wall stories about Hagee and few or any about Wright.
You’re kidding, right? McCain has “forged a relationship” with Hagee?? What kind of relationship would that be, outside one of political expediency?
McCain’s momentary, impersonal relationship with Hagee is nothing like the tight, personal bond “forged” over 20 years between Obama and the America-hating Wright. If you can’t see the clear, fundamental differences between the two, you are irretrievably dense.
One of these two relationships must be examined with an electron microscope, the layers must be peeled away to see what lies beneath. 20 years is a lifetime of exposure when the subject is a person’s “mentor”. 20 years is a lifetime of listening and learning and absorbing the “mentor’s” vitriol. How could anyone sit in the pew for 20 years and listen to racist, bigoted, conspiratorial, and hate-filled sermons unless he/she agrees with the messages???
Obama wants you to believe that he sat in the same church on Sunday for 20 years and yet he doesn’t agree with what the pastor preached. He wants you to believe he sat there for 20 years and the messages went in one ear and out the other. He’s counting on you being too obtuse to figure it out for yourself. I think it’s working.
More and more I’m believing Obama is a prevaricator and a hustler, and possibly an America hater, and I do not want him anywhere near the seat in the Oval Office. If you’re a Leftist, however, no doubt Obama is your man. If you’re a liberal who loves America, it’s time to move past the denial stage for a deeper look at your candidate. It’s time for you to WAKE UP!!
Staff Names and Titles
Dan Yeary, Pastor
Dick Stafford, Associate Pastor
Dave Murray, Executive Pastor & Chief Operating Officer
Maxie B. Burch, Associate Pastor for Faith Development
Steve Hayes, Associate Pastor for Community Engagement
John Shillington, Associate Pastor of Worship, Music and Prayer
Matt Madison, Family Minister
Delia Comon, Preschool Minister
Karyn Sheets, Minister to Children
JonMark Shillington, Minister to Students
Marilyn Nash, Single Adult Minister
Jim Rentz, Minister to Senior Adults
On the other hand, Rev. Wright has in fact been Obama’s regular pastor for many years.
Isn’t this baying at the moon, Vlad? After all, Hagee isn’t McCain’s regular minister, as McCain attends the North Phoenix Baptist Church
Did I say there was an exact, one-to-one correspondence between the two relationships? No.
In one case, we have a national candidate whose regular minister says some pretty outrageous things. The national media grabbed the story and ran with it, and pretty much shoved it down our throats for several weeks non-stop.
In the other, we have a national candidate who solicited the endorsement of an evangelical minister who says some pretty outrageous things. The national media all but ignored the story.
Not exactly one-to-one, is it?
Now, factor in that the received wisdom at Powerline is that the national media are stooges for the Democratic party, and for liberal causes in general, and you may begin to see my, um, cognitive dissonance emerging.
