Ralph:I’m not going to document everything everytime someone wants proof. Do your own research. I will only document something when I come out with the original topic. I will only say that it was on my link in which I gave McCain 58% on the abortion issue when we were debating which candidates to support during primary season.
This is like doing the Geneva Convention links everytime that the left says that they want those war rights applied to the terrorists. I’m just not going to post those type links on here anymore since they’ve been on here multiple times.
I’ll go ahead and put that down as a no, you can’t provide documentation to that allegation. And, since the burden is not on me to prove a negative, I’ll consider your allegation to have failed.
Ralph:I’m not going to document everything everytime someone wants proof. Do your own research. I will only document something when I come out with the original topic. I will only say that it was on my link in which I gave McCain 58% on the abortion issue when we were debating which candidates to support during primary season.
This is like doing the Geneva Convention links everytime that the left says that they want those war rights applied to the terrorists. I’m just not going to post those type links on here anymore since they’ve been on here multiple times.
I’ll go ahead and put that down as a no, you can’t provide documentation to that allegation. And, since the burden is not on me to prove a negative, I’ll consider your allegation to have failed.
I did provide documentation on the topic before. So go look it up yourself. I’ll put down that you are lazy. I don’t put all of my links that I find in my favorite list or form a special word processor file for all of my political information. So go find it on here. It’s not up to me to prove your negative either since it was provided on here before. It’s up to you to prove that it wasn’t on here. I told you which post/topic to do your search.
Basically you didn’t provide any documentation that Obama will switch the policy in the first post either or on the link that you provided. So don’t you have a double standard?
Republican Presidents deny public money in the U.S. to Planned Parenthood and other entities that provide medical services and birth control and sex education because they also provides abortions as well as abortion counselling.
I look forward to public money returning to Planned Parenthood and the like.
Actually, Wrap, the supposed ban on federal Funding for Planned Parenthood is pretty ineffective. They still get money from a variety of sources including the Title X Family Planning Act. They also get money from about 17 state Medicaid programs. Bear in mind that money is fungible.
Please also remember that PP is the largest abortion provider in the country.
Don’t you worry, Wrap, it’s a veritable abortion fiesta out there. Poor women get plenty of help killing their children.
I did provide documentation on the topic before. So go look it up yourself. I’ll put down that you are lazy. I don’t put all of my links that I find in my favorite list or form a special word processor file for all of my political information. So go find it on here. It’s not up to me to prove your negative either since it was provided on here before. It’s up to you to prove that it wasn’t on here. I told you which post/topic to do your search.
Basically you didn’t provide any documentation that Obama will switch the policy in the first post either or on the link that you provided. So don’t you have a double standard?
Yeah, you just don’t get it Ralphie. It’s up the person making an allegation to prove it, not the other way around. So, since you won’t prove it, your allegation fails.
And, no, I can’t prove that Obama will lift the Mexico City Policy because it hasn’t happened yet. But he will. You know that. I know that. Anyone who says he won’t is an idiot.
I did provide documentation on the topic before. So go look it up yourself. I’ll put down that you are lazy. I don’t put all of my links that I find in my favorite list or form a special word processor file for all of my political information. So go find it on here. It’s not up to me to prove your negative either since it was provided on here before. It’s up to you to prove that it wasn’t on here. I told you which post/topic to do your search.
Basically you didn’t provide any documentation that Obama will switch the policy in the first post either or on the link that you provided. So don’t you have a double standard?
Yeah, you just don’t get it Ralphie. It’s up the person making an allegation to prove it, not the other way around. So, since you won’t prove it, your allegation fails.
And, no, I can’t prove that Obama will lift the Mexico City Policy because it hasn’t happened yet. But he will. You know that. I know that. Anyone who says he won’t is an idiot.
Anyone who says that McCain didn’t vote against higher funding for adoptions is an idiot since I have a better standard than you do LOL (you admit that you can’t prove that Obama will switch the policy while I posted my link on here before)!!! How many times do people have to post the link to a topic before not needing to post it again? I posted the McCain link on here at least twice during the primary season. So go look it up!!!
I posted my link either in the general discussion forum or the election forum before the Michigan primary. If you guys want to do the search, go ahead and do so. I’m not wasting my time to find a link that is in one months worth of posts on here. Google and the search function didn’t locate it for me even if I used quote marks around certain words that I knew that I had posted.
Basically McCain’s adoption vote was on an abortion link.
Rated 75% by the NRLC, indicating a mixed record on abortion. (Dec 2006)
When I posted my 58% figure on here, I don’t recall any real conservatives giving me a hard time on my number since it had 21 or so abortion issues on the link.
Does Barack Obama still support Partial Birth Abortion?
In February 2004, U.S. Senate candidate Barack Obama’s wife, Michelle, sent a fund-raising letter with the “alarming news” that “right-wing politicians” had passed a law stopping doctors from stabbing half-born babies in the neck with scissors, suctioning out their brains and crushing their skulls.
Michelle called partial-birth abortion “a legitimate medical procedure,” and wouldn’t supporters please pay $150 to attend a luncheon for her husband, who would fight against “cynical ploy[s]” to stop it?
Legislation was presented on the federal level and in various states called the Born Alive Infants Protection Act. It stated all live-born babies were guaranteed the same constitutional right to equal protection, whether or not they were wanted.
BAIPA sailed through the U.S. Senate by unanimous vote. Even Sens. Clinton, Kennedy and Kerry agreed a mother’s right to “choose” stopped at her baby’s delivery.
The bill also passed overwhelmingly in the House. NARAL went neutral on it. Abortion enthusiasts publicly agreed that fighting BAIPA would appear extreme. President Bush signed BAIPA into law in 2002.
But in Illinois, the state version of BAIPA repeatedly failed, thanks in large part to then-state Sen. Barack Obama. It only passed in 2005, after Obama left.
Obama articulately worried that legislation protecting live aborted babies might infringe on women’s rights or abortionists’ rights. Obama’s clinical discourse, his lack of mercy, shocked me. I was naive back then. Obama voted against the measure, twice. It ultimately failed.
In 2003, as chairman of the next Senate committee to which BAIPA was sent, Obama stopped it from even getting a hearing, shelving it to die much like babies were still being shelved to die in Illinois hospitals and abortion clinics. (As chair of that same committee, Obama once abruptly ended a hearing early, right before Scott and Janet Willis, the parents of six children killed as a result of Illinois’ drivers licenses for bribes scandal, were to testify in favor of Choose Life license plate legislation. I was there for that one, too. The Willises had traveled three hours. Reporters filled the room. Obama stalled. He later killed the bill when no one was around.)
This is the man that doesn’t bother to show up for votes on National Security but slams Hillary Clinton for making a hard and conscienous decision that he couldn’t or wouldn’t take a stand on. However he will break his neck to rally and vote for partial birth abortion and denying the right of a living breathing child to life.
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/articl…
I happen to be pro-life. However, regardless of your position on abortion, I cannot imagine how anyone could be pro-partial birth abortion. Apparently Obama and his wife are. It is not enough for them to suck a baby’s life out of a woman womb. They want to make sure that jamming a pair of scissors into the head a partially formed baby and killing it is legal, and obviously moral (to them), right thing to do. How this man and his wife call themselves Christians is beyond me.
I doubt this will be productive because I think you have it out for McCain. That’s fine. There are a number of people here that can’t stand him. However, on the question of abortion he is very solidly pro-life.
- I have still seen no evidence that he voted against funding for adoptions. Not that such a vote would lessen his pro-life credibility. That would be the same as saying a vote against after school program funding is pro-crime.
-The Covenant News link (I’m not familiar with these people) was about a vote for appropriations for HHS. ALL but two Republicans voted for this bill: Including Rick Santorum who’s pro-life cred is pretty solid to say the least. The bill specifically forbade money going to fund abortions. It’s true that some of the organizations that get funded by HHS for family planning also do abortions (E.g. Planned Parenthood), but McCain has supported attempts to stop that.
-The 75% rating from NRLC is based on non-abortion votes. If you only consider votes on abortion issues, his voting record is 100%. Period. He gets the 75% from his McCain-Feingold stuff and Embryonic Stem Cells. I disagree with him on those issues, but they hardly make him pro-abortion.
-You are making the perfect the enemy of the good because you have it out for McCain. Obama is the guy who wants abortion on demand, not McCain. Obama is the guy who will turn on the spigot for taxpayer funding of abortions.
You seriously need to get your priorities straight.
