Fitna the movie defeating Islamic censorship
By Andrew Walden
Nothing makes people want to see something more than banning it, or even better yet, telling them they may not be able to handle it (Remember the Blair Witch Project?). On that basis, the new film Fitna, must be pulling in internet viewers by the tens of millions.
Everyone whos’ anyone in the “world community”, from the Dutch Prime Minister to the OIC to the EU to the UN, is telling the world this is mighty hateful stuff.
United Nations Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon is denouncing the internet premier of Fitna, claiming,
“The right of free expression is not at stake here,”
But Ban seems to imply there may be limits,
“...there is no justification for hate speech or incitement to violence.”
Oddly he was talking Fitna the movie defeating Islamic censorship about the movie, not the Islamic violence portrayed in it, or that which is feared in response to it. In doing so, Ban places the UN at the head of the Islamic mobs which do indeed put the right of free expression at stake here.
Fitna, Arabic for “strife” or “disturbance”, is the work of filmmaker and Dutch Member of Parliament Geert Wilders. Wilders point is clear: Islamist terror is neither a distortion nor a departure from Koranic teaching. Terrorists are following the instructions of the Koran to the letter.
Unable to find a Dutch television channel brave enough to play the video, Wilders went to the internet. But even the internet-based world premier of Fitna was temporarily blocked by fearful Internet registrar Network Solutions. This is the first time any website has been peremptorily removed from the allegedly free-flowing internet. But after its producers found another web host willing to stand up to Islamist retaliation, Fitna is finally available on-line. You can view Fitna here in English and it is available at a variety of other sites, so it is not going away sson.
Within two hours, 1.5 million people had viewed it in either English or Dutch. By the time you read this, who knows?
continued at:http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/03/fitna_the_movie_defeating_isla.html
I just finished watching the Fitna video and I would recommend it to everyone. It is a long video ( 1 hr and 38 minutes ) however it is worth taking the time to view in its entirety.
Edit: I had actually watched the video “What the West Needs to Know” and not the “Fitna” video.Ooops!
I had high hopes for the new UN Secretary-General.
U.N.’s Ban condemns Dutch film as anti-Islamic
Fri Mar 28, 2008 2:32pm EDT
UNITED NATIONS (Reuters) - U.N. Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon on Friday condemned as “offensively anti-Islamic” a Dutch lawmaker’s film that accuses the Koran of inciting violence.
Ban acknowledged efforts by the government of the Netherlands to stop the broadcast of the film, which was launched by Islam critic Geert Wilders over the Internet, and appealed for calm to those “understandably offended by it.”
“There is no justification for hate speech or incitement to violence,” Ban said in a statement. “The right of free expression is not at stake here.”
The short film, titled “Fitna,” an Arabic term sometimes translated as “strife,” intersperses images of the September 11 attacks on the United States and Islamist bombings with quotations from the Koran.
I just finished watching the Fitna video and I would recommend it to everyone. It is a long video ( 1 hr and 38 minutes ) however it is worth taking the time to view in its entirety.
The one I saw was only slightly over 15 minutes? Are we talking about the same thing?
I was confusing the “Fitna” video with this other video below “What the West Needs to Know”. My wife played the one below for me this morning and I had thought that it was the “Fitna” Video. Turns out the “Fitna” video is about 15 minutes in length and that she had played that one for me the other night and I had not really paid it much attention at the time. I watched it the “Fitna” video again a few minutes ago, and I will say that the one below is much better in my opinion. Sorry if I caused any confusion.
Well, I for one find the behavior of the Islamic Clerics and the Islamic people as barbaric, they love killing people, using a sword seems to be popular.
We in the west and around the world need to pay a great deal of attention to this film, all it is doing is showing how the Islamic world behaves and how they demand that everyone else kow-tow to them.
If people do resist the Islamic socktuckers, they will be enslaved, have no doubts about that.
Political Correctness and Islamic Clerics, two things the world needs to do without.
The title of this thread is in error. There is no such thing as “islamic censorship”. Islam holds no power in the US, or the West, at all.
What we have is a failure of our governments to protect our rights - the only real job that governments have. They insist on importing huge numbers of muslims (as there is a near endless supply of muslims in the world, this is the sort of policy that only a total retard could support). Then they insist on taking away our freedoms in order to try and appease the islamic world - which is still stuck in the 7th century.
Our governments are working for the interests of everyone else in the world but us - just to show how moral we are. This is, of course, the stuff revolutions are made of. Our governments are interested in doing everything except for their primary responsibilities.
No, there is no such thing as “islamic censorship” in the West. There is only stupidity and idiocy and governments who refuse to act in our own interests.
Couple this with the desire, here, to open our borders up and let the whole world rush in and bring us down to their level, and we see that there is nothing left of value in our governing structures.
What is the advantage, these days, to being a US citizen in the US?
This is the question, and the answer to it dictates how much longer people will stand the crap that our government is doing - all for the benefit of every non-citizen, whether in our country or from outside. McCain wants to grant all illegals the right to stay here and bring their families to join them. He thinks that the US is his to give away. He also wants to grant our ENEMIES the same rights as each of us, thereby taxing our court system (and probably destroying it) for the sake of his petty desire to be seen as “moral”.
What is the advantage of being a US citizen in the US? NONE! And that tells us all what the future holds.
Islamic censorship? Don’t make me laugh. It is self-censorship and the refusal of our government to do its job, which is to insure our rights and to take our side.
My heart breaks, too, Pandora. All the work that has gone into making this nation what it is has been tossed away. We have a 3 trillion dollar budget and not one cent goes to doing the work that a government is supposed to do. I wish I had 5 minutes to grill our “presidential candidates”. I would tear them all new ones.
And McCain has the gall to put up an ad that says “No Surrender” when he surrenders on every front to every one, except to US citizens. Those are the only people McCain refuses to surrender to. The same for the other two retards.
We’ll see what happens. But if things keep going the way they are, though, there’s going to be some real ugliness in the near-future. This is all well beyond “taxation without representation”.
We have a 3 trillion dollar budget and not one cent goes to doing the work that a government is supposed to do.
Ironic you should write that. It’s not only the Feds, it’s the State and local governments as well.
No government entity is seeing to the infrastructure and the necessary planning (outside of the UN-promoted “sustainable growth” bullsht) for any item of which they’re responsible.
We’ve got what is dubbed a “100-year drought” down here in NC. All the reservoirs were at record low levels. Do you think ‘they’ got on the EPA/government mandate stick and got dredging to provide for a larger water supply? No, the state is installing a new water-monitoring “system” to more accurately gauge supply levels, and considering requiring well-owners to “monitor and report” their well-water usage.
No new coal-powered plants can be built, we can’t build nuclear, we can’t drill for oil and the electricity infrastructure is for sht because it’s not being kept up with. No one is building roads needed for traffic but they keep trying to stick us with “light-rail” that goes nowhere people want to, and so regularly loses money.
No problem gets fixed anywhere, but more everyday life comes under the governments’ control. See toilet bowls, showerheads, (garbage disposals now banned in Raleigh) and now lightbulbs.
POP, I am right with ya man. I could have written exactly that if I had your skills.
Pandora, You sound exactly like me. I thought only my state and city was full of all these nuts. They are jamming that worthless light rail crap down our throats also.
I swear I have been thinking lately about a revolution in the sense that, that is what it’s going to take. This whole f-ing thing seems to me, about to collapse. I am pissed as hell also and almost to the point where I feel like marching down to city hall or the state capitol and start kicking the #### out of some of these commie bastards.
I am “exactly like” you, Titan. And probably a couple million other folks, maybe more.
Things are collapsing; trust your perceptions. We’ve legislated and court-suited ourselves into paralyzing gridlock where nothing productive gets done unless certain palms are greased, and then the doing is half-assed and defective.
“The Second Coming
Turning and turning in the widening gyre
The falcon cannot hear the falconer;
Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold;
Mere anarchy is loosed upon the world,
The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere
The ceremony of innocence is drowned;
The best lack all conviction, while the worst
Are full of passionate intensity.
Surely some revelation is at hand;
Surely the Second Coming is at hand.
The Second Coming! Hardly are those words out
When a vast image out of Spiritus Mundi
Troubles my sight: a waste of desert sand;
A shape with lion body and the head of a man,
A gaze blank and pitiless as the sun,
Is moving its slow thighs, while all about it
Wind shadows of the indignant desert birds.
The darkness drops again but now I know
That twenty centuries of stony sleep
Were vexed to nightmare by a rocking cradle,
And what rough beast, its hour come round at last,
Slouches towards Bethlehem to be born?”
Thanks, Titan. There are quite a few people who feel this way. And it’s interesting how the politicians don’t seem to understand this.
At least, during the Cold War, our politicians felt bound to US citizens. There were no illusions about morality. Our defense was to threaten the total annihilation of every single Soviet citizen, wihtout any regard for who supported the state structure and who didn’t. Within this framework, no AMerican would ever be threatened with “hate crime” laws for saying anything about “Ruskies” and no one had any fear of making movies that depicted the Soviets in all sorts of disrespectful and outright offensive ways. They were the enemy and no one would ever dare try to restrict the rights of an American citizen because of worries about how the Soviets perceived anything.
There had been inklings of our governments’ impotence to defend our rights - with the Iranian hostage crisis, and another shot across the bow with the Salman Rushdie fatwa. Both grave offenses against the West and every ideal the West claims to hold dear, and the West did absolutely nothing. These were the first signs of what was to come. But there was still the USSR to contend with, so it was easy to brush these instances under the rug and write them off as mild distractions that didn’t require our governments’ action in our defense.
Then, the Cold War ended, there was no longer anything seriously threatening us (not that most would acknowledge) and our politicians felt this great freedom to let their pea-brains run amok, uncontrained by the interests of the country they served. They were now “politicians of the world” and, just like the press, that meant that US citizens held no special place. After all, we are all just humans. So the moronic UN was given more and more power and more responsibilities (which it failed in every single instance).
And we have come to this. Most of our leaders want to print up US citizenships and hand them out like candy, because they think they are allowed to. US citizens are assaulted by that government for saying anything disrespectful about islam (though a much higher percentage of muslims support their war against us than soviet citizens supported the USSR’s war against us) and our politicians can’t stop from stumbling all over themselves to apologize, in our name, to our enemy - to the people whose actions have now caused me to be virtually stripsearched every time I fly a plane (and eventually for riding the train, too) ... not that I’m even allowed to take anything on the plane. But we can’t profile muslims. No. That wouldn’t be nice. It is sheer insanity and it is driving people too far. Add to that the asshat leftists who have to take out all of their deep emotional problems (and they have many - which is why they’re leftists) on the rest of us and the situation will approach an unbearable point in the not-too-distant future.
And to top it all off, we have these idiots running around praying at the mantle of “democracy”, something that had very little to do with the formation and development of the greatness of the US. It is infuriating, and sad.
We’ll see if these issues are addressed in this joke of a Presidential campaign. If so, I expect McShame and whoever the idiot is the Dems put forward to be run out of the race or trounced by a candidate who appreciates what the actual role of our government is and why there HAVE TO BE advantages to being a US citizen, in the eyes of the US government. If not ... watch out.
I didn’t mean to preach to the choir, but this whole situation, and its intense stupidity, really burns me up.
