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Criminal Justice in the United Kingdom
Posted: 12 May 2008 12:17 AM   [ Ignore ]  
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In recent years there has been a steady stream of horrific crime stories from Great Britain. <a href="http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/19422

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Posted: 12 May 2008 12:37 AM   [ Ignore ]  [ # 1 ]  
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This is what the loony liberal left (but I repeat myself) wants to bring to the United States.

Britain is lost.

Don’t let America be lost.

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Posted: 12 May 2008 02:45 AM   [ Ignore ]  [ # 2 ]

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It is a shame that once-Great Britain has allowed respect for
justice to diminish to this level.  How sad, and pathetic.

 
 
Posted: 12 May 2008 04:44 AM   [ Ignore ]  [ # 3 ]

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Britain is not one culture.  As in most western nations, the left have invaded many of the institutions - especially the media - and can therefore give the impression that they are typical of the whole; but the bulk of the British people are not of the leftist culture which produces insanities such as this story.

If the whole culture were like the leftist one, yes, it would of course not survive for five minutes.  But it is not, and that is the reason the leftist culture itself survives - by piggy-backing on the functioning culture.  Whether or not it ends up killing the host is another question.

 
 
Posted: 12 May 2008 05:57 AM   [ Ignore ]  [ # 4 ]

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London calling: but Brett McS has just said it better. It’s about parasites on a host. Watch out, a year from now the USA may be controlled by the parasites while Britain turns conservative, but Powerline readers will be welcome in the land of Boris.

 
 
Posted: 12 May 2008 08:24 AM   [ Ignore ]  [ # 5 ]

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This sickens me more than I can express.  And this is exactly why we in America need the death penalty and need to make it swifter and surer.  We need to stand out as a beacon of sanity in this crazy world that protects evil and punishes good.

Britain for some years now has not progressed but gone backwards.  Under their bureaucracy and government the rule of law has become a joke.

I can only hope that the family of the murdered girl will be able someday to have peace.  Because I know they won’t get justice.

 
 
Posted: 12 May 2008 08:25 AM   [ Ignore ]  [ # 6 ]

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I hate being negative about my own country and try to see the good that still exists.Facts and incidents such as this however are forcing me to consider that I truly do live in a society that increasingly is becoming as you say suicidal.Sometimes discretion is the better part of valour and as much as good people need to fight against the wrong being done to our society by the pols and the media,one has to know when to save ones family and withdraw.

 
 
Posted: 12 May 2008 08:45 AM   [ Ignore ]  [ # 7 ]

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Britain is already lost because the people have been disarmed.  The only people who actually have rights there are the criminals.

 
 
Posted: 12 May 2008 08:56 AM   [ Ignore ]  [ # 8 ]  
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not only disarmed,if you offer any resistance to a criminal act you will rapidly fall foul of the law..even if vindicated the whole process will have a physical,emotional and financial cost.it is our lot to passively submit to victimhood whilst we wait for the state to offer victim support! many of us of course are prepared to pay the price for defending ourselves but the tools to do so are inadequate ...we try though.

 
 
Posted: 12 May 2008 09:19 AM   [ Ignore ]  [ # 9 ]  
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Jack123 - 12 May 2008 08:45 AM

Britain is already lost because the people have been disarmed.  The only people who actually have rights there are the criminals.

And Muslims.

Oh wait ... was that redundant?

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Posted: 12 May 2008 11:45 AM   [ Ignore ]  [ # 10 ]

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It wasn’t very long ago, in this country at any rate (and probably in the UK, too) that rape and murder were both capital offenses, not to mention the combined rape and murder of a child.

Now we are giving ‘sex offenders’ short sentences in prison, and then letting them out, to prey again upon society.  Elaborate systems have been set up to ‘monitor’ these insidious felons, thus implicitly acknowledging that the danger of them repeating their offenses is great.

It has been apparent for a long time that minds so twisted as to attack children cannot be untwisted.  Any rational society would therefore quickly expunge such monsters from its midst.  You can put them on a desolate island somewhere, or keep them locked up behind secure walls and bars, or you can execute them forthwith.  You simply cannot let them back out into the world of normal human beings.

We have let a misguided compassion overwhelm reason and rationality.  How long before those who understand the folly of releasing irredeemable criminals get back in charge?

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Posted: 12 May 2008 12:09 PM   [ Ignore ]  [ # 11 ]  
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Great Britain forgot about being “Great” after the war. Over the last decade they have gutted their legal system, enshrining political correctness. They not only eliminated all firearms from the good guys, they prosecute citizens who do about anything to defend themselves and property from attack. They coddle gangs and have doubled gun crime and more than doubled violent crime. One is now 6 times more likely to get mugged in London than NYC and one is 3 times more likely to suffer a burglary where the citizen is home than in the USA. The criminals simply do not fear either the citizens or the law. Perhaps the worse thing they have done is eliminate the protection against double jeopardy. The government can keep bringing charges against a high profile defendant, usually one who has broken a PC rule, like someone who defends himself in an attack, over and over until they get the result they desire.

The UK has gotten so dangerous that my wife and I have decided not to visit.

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Posted: 12 May 2008 12:40 PM   [ Ignore ]  [ # 12 ]

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Ok, Americans, take a step back and a deep breath. I hate my country’s corrosion by the liberals, but the idea that it’s too dangerous for you folk is a little pansified. I agree that London is worse now than NYC or Houston where I’ve lived, but there’s really not much for the average tourist to worry about. Any reader of Drudge’s links to UK media - far robuster and heterogeneous than the US MSM - will realize that there’s plenty of resistance and scorn here for the pc and socialist. Thatcher won landslides for a reason.

We’re further down the slope than you, but polls suggest we may trend to a version of conservatism sooner. God help you if you get Obama, but McCain’s citizenship policies may destroy the USA even more effectively.

 
 
Posted: 12 May 2008 12:40 PM   [ Ignore ]  [ # 13 ]  
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I FIND IT INTERESTING THAT NONE OF THE LEFTARDS HAVE HAD ANYTHING TO SAY.

 
 
Posted: 12 May 2008 02:39 PM   [ Ignore ]  [ # 14 ]  
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When I was visiting London two years ago, I watched one of the morning news shows (mostly trying to find out whether I needed to carry an umbrella) and one of the feature stories was about an MP who had launched a campaign to “Hug a Hoodie"--the Brits term for the angry adolescents wandering about the neighborhoods causing trouble.

I figured it was just a matter of time before this PC response to crime and delinquency crossed the pond to the Colonies.

 
 
Posted: 12 May 2008 02:53 PM   [ Ignore ]  [ # 15 ]  
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Relish - 12 May 2008 02:39 PM

When I was visiting London two years ago, I watched one of the morning news shows (mostly trying to find out whether I needed to carry an umbrella) and one of the feature stories was about an MP who had launched a campaign to “Hug a Hoodie"--the Brits term for the angry adolescents wandering about the neighborhoods causing trouble.

I figured it was just a matter of time before this PC response to crime and delinquency crossed the pond to the Colonies.

That MP was David Cameron, the probable next Prime Minister. Here’s a photo of a hoodie pretending to point a gun at him behind his back: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/6389277.stm

Look, he was roundly mocked everywhere. There are oodles of social work and criminal justice horror stories, but they are publicised, despised by most outside the liberalocracy and form the emotional foundation for a new conservatism.

 
 
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