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Death by “Leadership"- Republican Congressional Committee takes a slappin’
Posted: 17 May 2008 09:29 AM

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Tired claptrap:

Republican Solutions and a Positive Agenda
Posted By: Tom Cole, May 16, 2008 - 9:52 AM

http://blog.nrcc.org/comment.cfm?entry_id=400

read the responses (about a thousand of them)- not one “Attaboy, Tom!! GREAT thinking!!!”

The NRCC gets dressed down, correctly and too late, IMO.

typical:

So let me get this straight - I have a choice between McCain or Hillary or Obama? Did I just say I have a choice? I think I just had a 52 yr-old brain cramp. I do not vote for RINOs. None of these 3 are qualified to run this country. If the Repubs are not different than the Demoncrats then what is the use? We speak with our votes - we vote for someone else. Vote for a spoiler? No, we vote our conscience. If the MSM or the NRCC want to consider them a spoiler - so be it. Get a clue already!. Abandoning conservatism means no money, no support, no vote from me.

Posted: PEPPER on May 16, 2008 at 1:49 PM

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Posted: 17 May 2008 10:36 AM   [ Ignore ]  [ # 1 ]

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Holy smoke!  These folks are just about as p.o.’d as we are:

We need to fix government? That goes without saying; but how about fixing the Republican Party?

Do you remember how you were once the majority party? Do you remember how you got there? You got there by being proud Conservatives and educating the public on what it means to be truly Conservative.

You are losing because you are now no longer anything but a mere echo of the Democrats’ socialist agenda. You have forgotten the first principles of our Founding Fathers and the Constitution.

Posted: Greg Surprenant on May 16, 2008 at 1:29 PM

“Families today face challenges that yesterday’s laws simply don’t address.” ...so let’s grow government to fix everything.

“We need to fix government, and one solution is to update our laws so they provide America’s families with more freedom in their jobs” ...by interfering with liberty and interfering, more, in the workplace.

“greater healthcare and retirement security” by providing free money and by making laws which tell us how to care for our health

“safer communities” by completely eliminating the role of the States in our Federal Republic--so that the Federal government can police our streets

“access to quality, affordable education” since the government is the only entity which can define “affordable” --or “quality education” for us

“and the ability for future generations to compete in the global economy...” All that and more will be under the thumb of bureaucrats and their massa’s on Capitol Hill.

Yes, the Republican party is dead. I no longer think it’s an accident. It’s subversion.

I fear these aren’t crack-addicted and confused politicians but truly usurpers who know exactly what they are doing. Rational people with goals of not getting burned repeatedly do not continue the same process of putting their hands in the waffle iron.

Were these characters actually listening to us they would stop the invasion by illegals, they would act like patriots, they would force a clean-up of DHS and State to clean out the illegals and traitors there, they would make hit the democrats--every single day--until we are drilling in ANWR. ...and so on. (Those are all heresies to these characters.)

Posted: Fritz Ames on May 16, 2008 at 1:35 PM

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Posted: 17 May 2008 11:10 AM   [ Ignore ]  [ # 2 ]

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While this is indeed heartening, I’m afraid Tom Cole has already dug in:

The Washington Post, Feb 4, 2008
“GOP Senators Reassess Views About McCain” by Paul Kane

Nevertheless, many House Republicans now view McCain as the best possible nominee. Despite the senator’s heresies on taxes, immigration and campaign finance, Rep. Tom Cole (Okla.), chairman of the Republican campaign committee, said McCain could appeal to independent voters.

“You’ll have more Democrats running away from Hillary Clinton than you’ll have Republicans running away from our nominee,” he said.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/02/03/AR2008020303242_pf.html

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Posted: 17 May 2008 11:12 AM   [ Ignore ]  [ # 3 ]

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Tom Cole has already dug in

-that’s known as a “grave”.

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Posted: 17 May 2008 11:28 AM   [ Ignore ]  [ # 4 ]

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“You’ll have more Democrats running away from Hillary Clinton than you’ll have Republicans running away from our nominee,” he said.

Oh yeah.  That’s a great strategy.

Just nominate a candidate slightly less repulsive to Republicans than the Democrat’s own is to them.  Piece o’ cake.

No doubts left about why the R’s are in the tank; none.

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Posted: 17 May 2008 12:56 PM   [ Ignore ]  [ # 5 ]

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The Yell - 17 May 2008 11:10 AM

While this is indeed heartening, I’m afraid Tom Cole has already dug in:

The Washington Post, Feb 4, 2008
“GOP Senators Reassess Views About McCain” by Paul Kane

Nevertheless, many House Republicans now view McCain as the best possible nominee. Despite the senator’s heresies on taxes, immigration and campaign finance, Rep. Tom Cole (Okla.), chairman of the Republican campaign committee, said McCain could appeal to independent voters.

“You’ll have more Democrats running away from Hillary Clinton than you’ll have Republicans running away from our nominee,” he said.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/02/03/AR2008020303242_pf.html

No, TY, I think you are off base on this one.  Maybe I’m being a bit of a pollyanna, but it seems to me that Cole is genuinely trying to see where the folks are on issues to craft an agenda to run on.  The quote that you cited occurred over 3 months ago, before Mississippi happened.  They finally seem to be getting the message.  It wouldn’t be a bad time for folks to write him and their Republican congressmen.  With some good feedback from the rank and file, Cole and company might be able to come up with a good agenda to run on. 

It’s “trust but verify” time: Let’s give him the benefit of the doubt for now.  By September, we’ll see whether or not Cole and company are full of it by the agenda they craft, and whether or not they deserve our votes.  A strong conservative Republican minority, along with Blue Dog Dems , could be a formidable coalition for or against any president’s agenda.

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Posted: 17 May 2008 03:27 PM   [ Ignore ]  [ # 6 ]  
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Depending on who you read you hear numbers like 10 to 35 House seats and 4 to 7 Senate seats going to the Dems.

With more than 20 Blue Dogs Dems and likely to win at least a 1/3 of any new Dems pickups in the House would likely fit into the Blue Dem category it’s not going to be all fun and roses for them.

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Posted: 17 May 2008 07:38 PM   [ Ignore ]  [ # 7 ]

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Jose31V - 17 May 2008 12:56 PM

The Yell - 17 May 2008 11:10 AM
While this is indeed heartening, I’m afraid Tom Cole has already dug in:

The Washington Post, Feb 4, 2008
“GOP Senators Reassess Views About McCain” by Paul Kane

Nevertheless, many House Republicans now view McCain as the best possible nominee. Despite the senator’s heresies on taxes, immigration and campaign finance, Rep. Tom Cole (Okla.), chairman of the Republican campaign committee, said McCain could appeal to independent voters.

“You’ll have more Democrats running away from Hillary Clinton than you’ll have Republicans running away from our nominee,” he said.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/02/03/AR2008020303242_pf.html

No, TY, I think you are off base on this one.  Maybe I’m being a bit of a pollyanna, but it seems to me that Cole is genuinely trying to see where the folks are on issues to craft an agenda to run on.  The quote that you cited occurred over 3 months ago, before Mississippi happened.  They finally seem to be getting the message.  It wouldn’t be a bad time for folks to write him and their Republican congressmen.  With some good feedback from the rank and file, Cole and company might be able to come up with a good agenda to run on. 

It’s “trust but verify” time: Let’s give him the benefit of the doubt for now.  By September, we’ll see whether or not Cole and company are full of it by the agenda they craft, and whether or not they deserve our votes.  A strong conservative Republican minority, along with Blue Dog Dems , could be a formidable coalition for or against any president’s agenda.

Jose, bless your heart; aren’t you the hopeful optimist.  After the drubbing the Republicans took in ‘06, the blunt explanations and outrage last spring over that POS amnesty bill and the increasingly obvious lack of party donations complete with why-I’m-not-giving-money-to-you-people notes, I doubt Mississippi will convey any message NRCC shouldn’t have already absorbed.

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Posted: 17 May 2008 11:11 PM   [ Ignore ]  [ # 8 ]

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but it seems to me that Cole is genuinely trying to see where the folks are on issues to craft an agenda to run on.

Perhaps the time to figure that out was before running for Congress as a Republican?

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Posted: 18 May 2008 02:25 AM   [ Ignore ]  [ # 9 ]  
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Pandora - 17 May 2008 10:36 AM

Holy smoke!  These folks are just about as p.o.’d as we are:

We need to fix government? That goes without saying; but how about fixing the Republican Party?

Do you remember how you were once the majority party? Do you remember how you got there? You got there by being proud Conservatives and educating the public on what it means to be truly Conservative.

You are losing because you are now no longer anything but a mere echo of the Democrats’ socialist agenda. You have forgotten the first principles of our Founding Fathers and the Constitution.

Posted: Greg Surprenant on May 16, 2008 at 1:29 PM

This is kind of cool. I’m quoting you quoting me on another blog.

I couldn’t wait to respond to Cole’s post as soon as I got the NRCC e-mail notifying me of the GOP’s bold plan to fix government.

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Posted: 18 May 2008 11:52 AM   [ Ignore ]  [ # 10 ]

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Wow, I didn’t have time to read all those replies, but there’s no question the RINOs are getting the message.

The question is whether we’re getting the message: GOP has no need for conservative base.

How else can you take it? They’re not reaching out to us, they’ve written us off. They’re reaching out to the wafflers, fence sitters, independents, moderates and a whole host of “fair weather friends.”

Now, where are our McCainiacs in this thread? Seems to me they ought to be blustering how the sky is crashing down around our ears if we don’t vote for McCain, yada, yada, yada.

Shoot, GOP called yesterday begging for money ...

It was an abrupt call that ended in less than 5 seconds.

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Posted: 18 May 2008 04:12 PM   [ Ignore ]  [ # 11 ]  
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Baldy - 18 May 2008 02:25 AM

Pandora - 17 May 2008 10:36 AM
Holy smoke!  These folks are just about as p.o.’d as we are:

We need to fix government? That goes without saying; but how about fixing the Republican Party?

Do you remember how you were once the majority party? Do you remember how you got there? You got there by being proud Conservatives and educating the public on what it means to be truly Conservative.

You are losing because you are now no longer anything but a mere echo of the Democrats’ socialist agenda. You have forgotten the first principles of our Founding Fathers and the Constitution.

Posted: Greg Surprenant on May 16, 2008 at 1:29 PM

This is kind of cool. I’m quoting you quoting me on another blog.

I couldn’t wait to respond to Cole’s post as soon as I got the NRCC e-mail notifying me of the GOP’s bold plan to fix government.

How about that!  I quoted your post, Greg, because I agree with your opinion as succinctly stated.

Ironic, really; the party no longer stands for, nor espouses conservative principles, yet insists it will be the fault of conservatives if its non-conservative candidate loses the election.

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Posted: 18 May 2008 04:45 PM   [ Ignore ]  [ # 12 ]  
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Well sure! That’s how the center loses, remember Gore v Nader? “If you weren’t so high-handed and soooo smart,and voted for the lesser evil, Bush would have lost to Gore! Then you’d have almost what you needed! So did you do anything positive?”

“Yeah. We beat your centrist whore of a sellout.”

“Oh shut up.”

Now its our turn.

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Posted: 18 May 2008 05:27 PM   [ Ignore ]  [ # 13 ]

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Yeah, now it’s our turn....to shoot ourselves in either the foot (McCain), or the head (Obama, Clinton).

Feh.

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Pandora - 18 May 2008 05:27 PM

Yeah, now it’s our turn....to shoot ourselves in either the foot (McCain), or the head (Obama, Clinton).

Feh.

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Posted: 18 May 2008 05:50 PM   [ Ignore ]  [ # 15 ]

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It just might help if the quit trying reach out so far that they recruit and run people that even the Dems wouldn’t recruit and look to run conservative candidates instead.

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