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McCain vs. Obama:  worse Presidential choices in my lifetime
Posted: 11 May 2008 05:07 PM

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Even slick Willie vs. Dole wasn’t as bad as a choice as this one will be.  Both candidates absolutely positively shouldn’t be elected to the highest office in the land.  McCain sounds like he is starting to backtrack on the immigration issue once again.  He still believes in Geneva Convention rights for terrorists.  He believes in global warming.  He still believes in McCain Feingold since he still hasn’t authored a counter proposal to that even though he knows that it was bad legislation.  I showed during the primary season that John isn’t all that pro life as I gave him a 58% based on 21 issues in a link on here.  He voted against the Bush tax cuts.  There are more issues on McCain where he sucks at, but won’t list them here.  I just can’t envision myself voting for either candidate since both are so bad.  Either I’m voting for a third party for President, waiting on a real conservative to run as an independent candidate, or just sit this one out and vote for the other offices and ballot issues (sorry Brooks Paterson but I’m voting against you and I saw you eating today).

 
 
Posted: 11 May 2008 06:24 PM   [ Ignore ]  [ # 1 ]

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Beats Bush vs. Kerry by a mile.

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Posted: 11 May 2008 07:33 PM   [ Ignore ]  [ # 2 ]

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impeachbush - 11 May 2008 06:24 PM

Beats Bush vs. Kerry by a mile.

Hey, at least Kerry was able to win his own home state. If Gore had been able to do so 4 years earlier, he wouldn’t have needed to win Florida.

Worst Presidential choices in my lifetime?

Carter VS Ford in 1976

 
 
Posted: 11 May 2008 07:46 PM   [ Ignore ]  [ # 3 ]

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I just can’t envision myself voting for either candidate since both are so bad.

Either the Democratic Party nominee will become president, or the Republican Party nomminee will become president.  Period.  You think they’re both equally bad, fine - sit it out.  Just don’t go telling me how holy you are because you couldn’t manage to make a decision as to which was the lesser of two evils.

This ain’t rocket science.

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Posted: 11 May 2008 08:07 PM   [ Ignore ]  [ # 4 ]

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I am hoping that McCain picks a GREAT VP. Then again I might have better luck pushing rope.

Romney as VP anybody........??
Duncan Hunter would be my second choice, but I think he has too little recognizability<--- (i think I made that word up)

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Posted: 11 May 2008 08:53 PM   [ Ignore ]  [ # 5 ]

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impeachbush - 11 May 2008 06:24 PM

Beats Bush vs. Kerry by a mile.

Inarticulate but right v fake war hero and hobby senator...sorry, there we had a choice. This is a RINO v a rooky socialist...sad.

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Posted: 11 May 2008 08:59 PM   [ Ignore ]  [ # 6 ]

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Mike C. Posted:

I just can’t envision myself voting for either candidate since both are so bad.

Either the Democratic Party nominee will become president, or the Republican Party nomminee will become president.  Period.  You think they’re both equally bad, fine - sit it out.  Just don’t go telling me how holy you are because you couldn’t manage to make a decision as to which was the lesser of two evils.

This ain’t rocket science.

The Republican party is in the toilet for acting like democrats and they nominate this poser. His claimed of fame is acting like a democrat.

I guess some of us just aren’t quite as enlightened as you Mikey C. Not only haven’t I come to terms enabling me to vote for this guy I can’t even listen to him. O’Reilly had about an hours worth of interviews with him last week, I could stand listening for a total of about 30 seconds.

Voting for the lesser of two poges my not be rocket science yet frankly I don’t really seem to give a damn..

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Posted: 11 May 2008 09:07 PM   [ Ignore ]  [ # 7 ]

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I’m with “Mike C.” and the Danes on this one:


“We in Denmark cannot figure out why you are even bothering to hold an election.

On one side, you have a lawyer who is married to a lawyer, and a lawyer who is married to a lawyer. 

On the other side, you have a true war hero married to a blonde with a huge chest who owns a beer distributorship.

Is there a contest here?”

See? It ain’t rocket science.

NOTE: h/t goes to a “nano” post of a couple of weeks ago.

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Posted: 12 May 2008 12:15 AM   [ Ignore ]  [ # 8 ]

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Mike C. - 11 May 2008 07:46 PM

I just can’t envision myself voting for either candidate since both are so bad.

Either the Democratic Party nominee will become president, or the Republican Party nomminee will become president.  Period.  You think they’re both equally bad, fine - sit it out.  Just don’t go telling me how holy you are because you couldn’t manage to make a decision as to which was the lesser of two evils.

This ain’t rocket science.

Right on.

It’s the Democrats who have the tough choice to make.  The choice in the general election seems pretty clear to me.

Anyway, concerning previous elections, Nixon vs. Humphrey was an odd competition.  And then four years later with Nixon vs. McGovern, it was a competition that didn’t feature the kind of conservative that everyone seems to think we are always entitled to.  Nixon wasn’t exactly a conservative’s conservative, after all.  But he was apparently an easy choice over liberal George McGovern.  There was some buyer’s remorse later.

And someone mentioned Carter vs. Ford.  That was a lose-lose proposition, if there ever was one.  Anyone remember “Whip Inflation Now” buttons?  Probably not.

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Posted: 12 May 2008 12:24 AM   [ Ignore ]  [ # 9 ]

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ChicagoGabriel - 11 May 2008 09:07 PM

I’m with “Mike C.” and the Danes on this one:


“We in Denmark cannot figure out why you are even bothering to hold an election.

On one side, you have a lawyer who is married to a lawyer, and a lawyer who is married to a lawyer. 

On the other side, you have a true war hero married to a blonde with a huge chest who owns a beer distributorship.

Is there a contest here?”


See? It ain’t rocket science.

NOTE: h/t goes to a “nano” post of a couple of weeks ago.

Sometimes, frivolous is the only way to go.

Speaking of which, where is millay?

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Posted: 12 May 2008 06:52 AM   [ Ignore ]  [ # 10 ]  
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Ralph E. - 11 May 2008 05:07 PM

Even slick Willie vs. Dole wasn’t as bad as a choice as this one will be.  Both candidates absolutely positively shouldn’t be elected to the highest office in the land.  McCain sounds like he is starting to backtrack on the immigration issue once again.  He still believes in Geneva Convention rights for terrorists.  He believes in global warming.  He still believes in McCain Feingold since he still hasn’t authored a counter proposal to that even though he knows that it was bad legislation.  I showed during the primary season that John isn’t all that pro life as I gave him a 58% based on 21 issues in a link on here.  He voted against the Bush tax cuts.  There are more issues on McCain where he sucks at, but won’t list them here.  I just can’t envision myself voting for either candidate since both are so bad.  Either I’m voting for a third party for President, waiting on a real conservative to run as an independent candidate, or just sit this one out and vote for the other offices and ballot issues (sorry Brooks Paterson but I’m voting against you and I saw you eating today).

Very interesting.  Since you have dedicated your message to excoriating McCain, with not a word against Obama, I can’t but surmise that your purpose is to undermine support for the Republican candidate.  Yes?

 
 
Posted: 12 May 2008 07:13 AM   [ Ignore ]  [ # 11 ]

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Mike C. - 11 May 2008 07:46 PM

I just can’t envision myself voting for either candidate since both are so bad.

Either the Democratic Party nominee will become president, or the Republican Party nomminee will become president.  Period.  You think they’re both equally bad, fine - sit it out.  Just don’t go telling me how holy you are because you couldn’t manage to make a decision as to which was the lesser of two evils.

This ain’t rocket science.

Thanks Mike. That is by far the best, most succint post I’ve read on this thread.

I made a mistake in 1992 by voting for Perot. For every scandal and weakness America suffered over the next 8 years, I promised myself I would not make the same mistake again. I lived in Yuma, AZ. for 12 years. I know first hand the problem McCain has permitted to exist along our southern border. I too am praying his VP is a strong conservative.

To the rest of you, there is no “honor” or “pride” in proclaiming you are going to utilize the rights and freedoms bought and paid for with the blood and sacrifice of Americans who cared and loved this country with all they had, by throwing away your vote or by sitting on your hands. Shame on you.

If that is the best decision you can make at this time, better you just keep it to yourself. In Marine speak, “Shut the Phuck Up.”

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Posted: 12 May 2008 07:14 AM   [ Ignore ]  [ # 12 ]

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Del Dolemonte - 11 May 2008 07:33 PM

Carter VS Ford in 1976

That’s what this is. It’s closest to ‘76. So it’s either ‘malaise’ or disaster. Those are the choices. Obama couldn’t be much more incompetent or leftist than Carter (who is perpetually in a close battle with Clinton among historians for worst-Pres-ever). And McCain couldn’t be much further left of Jerry Ford, who cut n ran in Vietnam, pardoned Nixon, and produced platitudes to deal with economic problems (also then caused by oil).

Failure in leadership, either way, for what is supposed to be the world’s last ‘super-power’ (which really isn’t true - Red China currently is).

The only way to solve the problem is to - DUMP McCain! Has to happen at the convention. It’s the last best hope for America.

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Posted: 12 May 2008 01:33 PM   [ Ignore ]  [ # 13 ]

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ChicagoGabriel Posted: 11 May 2008 09:07 PM

On the other side, you have a true war hero married to a blonde with a huge chest who owns a beer distributorship.

Well I’ve raised h3ll about being stuck with McCain on many occasions in past. It’s not that I see Ron Paul as a choice. It’s that Conservatives either have some power or they don’t. If we vote for McCain we’ve given up any pretense of power. But if we don’t, the real future under a socialist will be far worse. On the theoritical level, McCain can go to h3ll. Forced to live in reality, I’ll fight to prevent a New Leftist from attaining the Presidancy.

Sorry...the mind is wandering around looking for brewski...The point is===> I plan to vote for the blond w/ the BIG Chest and beer distributorship. Her hubby is baggage.

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TheHat - 12 May 2008 01:33 PM

Sorry...the mind is wandering around looking for brewski...The point is===> I plan to vote for the blond w/ the BIG Chest and beer distributorship. Her hubby is baggage.

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Posted: 12 May 2008 02:06 PM   [ Ignore ]  [ # 15 ]

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I agree that 1976 is the comparable year in my lifetime:  newcomer leftist promising nothing other than change v. weak establishment RINO candidate. Two HORRIBLE candidates.

If 1976 is the model, look for Obambi to jump to a big lead after getting the nomination, with McRINO making a late charge but falling short. Then 4 years of misery followed by a challenge from a real conservative.

I’ve only sat out one Presidential election:  1976.

 
 
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