Whether or not Obama chooses to take ownership of what his minions say, they are HIS minions and what they say is attributable to him. He’s like the person who never practices, then gets lucky in a game, and claims the win was all his but let anyone mess up, then Obama is not a member of the team.
Schultz is a 2nd rate, maybe 3rd rate, leftist mouth - that’s it.
The sad thing is that the Dems have nothing of substance so they attack people, personalities, and personna. They have no content, ideas are remnants of the 1930’s and nothing newer. They mislead their own constituents and have made sure over the last 40+ years that their base is dependent on the government dole. The ultra-rich Dems believe they’re better than the rest of Americans and won’t mind high taxes b/c they’ll either have shelters or park their money offshore.
There are many losers in their plans: middle class that worked to provide for family; lower class that is trapped in a government system with no escape; corporations that provide jobs but believe they have to kowtow to the socialist/Democrats and eventually will lose everything (Venezuela, China, etc.).
The only winners are the fat-cat Dems who, having inherited or made their wealth, now think they are better than everyone else.
“Digby" has a good post on this issue,, specifically on how protective the MSM is of its beloved McCain: the MSM’s coverage has been entirely about protecting McCain from being unfairly “attacked” for his 100-years comment. It’s comparable to 2000 when Gore was attacked by the MSM for things he didn’t say, while that same MSM went out of its way to protect Bush from being unfairly judged for his infelicitous phrasing.
With all the rending of garments about the horror of Obama using McCain’s words against him, nobody has bothered to ask what McCain actually did mean when he said it --- or why he flipped flopped like a dying carp saying at one time or another completely different things on the subject.
On the best of days, John McCain’s fanboys rival 12 year old girls screaming themselves faint in the front row of a Jonas Brothers concert, but this rush to ensure that that mean Barack Obama didn’t “get away” with using McCain’s own words against him on the stump was a profile in Xtreme Flyboy-love. Once again, McCain is excused for saying something completely shocking because his scribbling sycophants are sure he “didn’t really mean it.” One can only imagine what it would be like if all candidates were given the benefit of the doubt on such matters.
After all, if McCain is willing to leave the troops in Iraq indefinitely on the assumption that they’ll stop getting killed and it’ll turn into a peace-time presence like Japan or Germany, he’s merely showing that he’s dangerously unserious on national security. In the real world, the choice is between leaving the troops there in a war zone or starting to pull them out. McCain lacks the courage to make this hard choice, so instead he envisions a magical fantasy world where the troops are merely there to keep the peace.
This being the case, it’s fair to say that McCain wants 100 years of war, in the sense that if things continue as they are for the indefinite future, McCain will still oppose a pull-out because we haven’t “won” yet. Saying we’ll stay until we win is the same as saying the war should continue forever, particularly since McCain refuses to define victory or to define the enemy. Or if McCain believes there is a time when he would think it’s not worth staying even though we haven’t “won,” he should be asked to say so. The MSM will never do it, though, since McCain is a great guy and they want to have a beer/barbecue with him and the narrative will be Great Wonderful Patriotic McCain vs. Evil Elitist Democrat, the same narrative that the MSM pushed in 2000 (wonderful down-to-earth Bush vs. evil lying Gore).
Also, A warmonger is defined as “one who urges or attempts to stir up war.” While all the candidates could be warmongers by that definition (and indeed, to a hard leftist, they probably all are warmongers), it’s hard to see why McCain, with his feverish support of waging, extending, and escalating the Iraq war, objects to the term. (I can see why Obama’s team repudiates it, though, since if McCain is a “warmonger” then he and Clinton are too by some definitions.)
"Warmonger” --literally a “seller of war”? Perhaps more accurate than you think…
It’s time to introduce the term “warsocialism” into discourse here at Powerline. It is not mine but a coinage of Jay Hanson. No one else that I can think of has done such a sterling job of compiling and analyzing all of the political, economic, genomic, and thermodynamic facts regarding the current situation in Murka, and the present overshoot and imminent dieoff faced by mankind than Jay Hanson.
A warsocialist society is one in which industry primarily serves the government’s warmaking apparatus (and they both serve the greed of the elite for ever more and more energy resources)—and war becomes the primary driver of economic growth. And look where we are now, early XXIst century—and war is the chief export of the United States, particularly in the form of the War on Terror, an indefinitely extending war against a vague and unspecified enemy. John McCain has repeatedly sworn to keep this export, the projection of violence, going because without it—well, you figure it out, no more oil, fewer jobs, an economic collapse already in progress would be exacerbated.
“Warmonger" --literally a “seller of war”? Perhaps more accurate than you think…
It’s time to introduce the term “warsocialism” into discourse here at Powerline. It is not mine but a coinage of Jay Hanson. No one else that I can think of has done such a sterling job of compiling and analyzing all of the political, economic, genomic, and thermodynamic facts regarding the current situation in Murka, and the present overshoot and imminent dieoff faced by mankind than Jay Hanson.
A warsocialist society is one in which industry primarily serves the government’s warmaking apparatus (and they both serve the greed of the elite for ever more and more energy resources)—and war becomes the primary driver of economic growth. And look where we are now, early XXIst century—and war is the chief export of the United States, particularly in the form of the War on Terror, an indefinitely extending war against a vague and unspecified enemy. John McCain has repeatedly sworn to keep this export, the projection of violence, going because without it—well, you figure it out, no more oil, fewer jobs, an economic collapse already in progress would be exacerbated.
Genomic facts? imminent die-off? war is chief export of USA? Murka?
“Digby” has a good post on this issue,, specifically on how protective the MSM is of its beloved McCain: the MSM’s coverage has been entirely about protecting McCain from being unfairly “attacked” for his 100-years comment. It’s comparable to 2000 when Gore was attacked by the MSM for things he didn’t say, while that same MSM went out of its way to protect Bush from being unfairly judged for his infelicitous phrasing.
You are serious, right? Yes, the press leapt onto each and every malapropism that Bush uttered, but made sure to cover up some beauts from Gore. “Unfairly attacked?” Do you really have the gall to say that in the face of the Kerry-Swiftboat/Bush-TANG coverage? The “conservative loving” media spent more than a year scrutinizing and digging in the TANG story, while effectively ignoring, no, actually blackballing any stories about Kerry’s questionable service in Vietnam. Heck, if we can’t find a story, let’s concoct one!! (Dan Rather could not be reached for comment)
McCain’s “100 year” comments are pure crap. Pull out of Japan and Germany first. Get to the real problem which the media is covering up: McCain’s illegal “immigrant” issues, and his use of Juan Hernandez as his “hispanic outreach director.” How about his free speech/voting reform issues. Plenty of real meat.
The real issue is the creampuff treatment Obambi is getting from the MSM, and the relative (to McCain) lack of experience by both Obama and Hillary. Neither have any experience doing much of anything, including being senators.
“To run for office as a Democrat is to prey on (and pray for) ignorance.”
That is the most concise and accurate appraisal of the Democrat party I have heard to date.
T’AllOver: “Also, A warmonger is defined as “one who urges or attempts to stir up war.” While all the candidates could be warmongers by that definition (and indeed, to a hard leftist, they probably all are warmongers), it’s hard to see why McCain, with his feverish support of waging, extending, and escalating the Iraq war, objects to the term. (I can see why Obama’s team repudiates it, though, since if McCain is a “warmonger” then he and Clinton are too by some definitions.)”
warmongers, “it’s hard to see why McCain, with his feverish support of waging, extending, and escalating the Iraq war, objects to the term.”
You wouldn’t be re-defining terms and purposefully slandering Senator McCain to express your disdain for him, would ya?
Naaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa.
Now ...
About that there Balkan thingy that began TWELVE YEARS ago whereby America killed THOUSANDS of CHRISTIANS on behalf of Allah - that aint no big thang, eh? Lobbing TWENTY MILLION DOLLAR Cruise Missiles at Omar the Tent Maker and and aspirin factory aint no big deal neither I suppose.
SOMEtimes ...
A man’s gotta do what a man’s gotta do I guess.
Hell ...
Against MY counsel and experiences, John McCain would CEASE what some call “extreme” interrogations. THAT should make the T’AllOvers warm and fuzzy if nothing else does!
I’m not sure why so many of our fellow conservatives are surprised.
Who’s surprised? I certainly am not surprised.
I am also not surprised who was chosen to “open” for Obama. Afterall, Obama may try to pretend that he is a moderate, but anyone with 1/2 brain knows that he is nothing but a liberal moonbat who hates this country. He can’t wait to become President so that he can turn us into his dream...socialist/communist country.
JOHN adds: That’s a step in the right direction. Now, if Obama will admit that McCain, not being a warmonger, has not advocated fighting in Iraq for 100 years, and if he apologizes for his own endlessly-repeated smears that were essentially the same as Schultz’s, we can get on with the campaign.
I certainly hope that you are not holding your breath John.
And sound bytes, John McCain has already pointed out that Obambi is THE most “liberal” member of the U.S. Senate.
I rarely use the term “liberal” as a pejorative because I believe there are SOME well-meaning liberals in the national arena. That’s why I prefer “Leftist” or “left-winger”. It more properly describes the loons that seem to have infected the Democrat Party.
Obama certainly represents the very left-wing of the Dem Party. Shall we commence to list all of his like-minded predecessors?
Using tax payer funded military to protect oil profits. Socializing the cost, privatizing the profits.
Jack Murtha is infamous for his military earmarks, that greatly benefit the economy of Pennsylvania.
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Isn’t this the second time you have tried to target Big Eddie?
I take that to mean you think is a threat.
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Did you have this same sympathy when McCain was smeared as having an ‘dark’ child out of wedlock.
McCain I was ‘against the tax cuts before I was for them.’
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If you want to have a fair fight.......
okay, but I doubt if you will be able to hold your side to any kind of fair standards, for the obvious reason that in a fair fight, you can’t win!
I’m not sure why so many of our fellow conservatives are surprised.
Afterall, Obama may try to pretend that he is a moderate, but anyone with 1/2 brain knows that he is nothing but a liberal moonbat who hates this country. He can’t wait to become President so that he can turn us into his dream...socialist/communist country.
I certainly hope that you are not holding your breath John.
Your priorities are so misguided Susan you poor dear.
This country is socializing the costs, and privatizing the profits.
Have your military protect the country’s rights...... as in the freedom to privatize oil profits.
I’m not sure why so many of our fellow conservatives are surprised.
Afterall, Obama may try to pretend that he is a moderate, but anyone with 1/2 brain knows that he is nothing but a liberal moonbat who hates this country. He can’t wait to become President so that he can turn us into his dream...socialist/communist country.
I certainly hope that you are not holding your breath John.
Your priorities are so misguided Susan you poor dear.
This country is socializing the costs, and privatizing the profits.
Have your military protect the country’s rights...... as in the freedom to privatize oil profits.
Just a WAG here, but I’d bet money that you could write everything you know about oil and the oil business on a 3X5” card with a can of spray paint at a distance of 10 yards.
“What’s good for Al Qaeda is good for the Democratic Party in this country today.”
--Rush Limbaugh
Look, I appreciate both McCain’s and Obama’s efforts to keep this a civil campaign, and I think, for the most part so far, it has been. But given the quote from Limbaugh, above, which is representative of the non-stop rhetoric that anti-war Democrats have been hearing from pro-war conservatives for the past seven years, who are Republicans to now raise a fuss over these unfortunate lapses in civility? In fact, McCain has taken as much if not more flak from people like Limbaugh, Coulter and Hannity than he has from the other side.
So this latest fuss will have to be dismissed as cheap politics, since these complaints are clearly as disingenuous and hypocritical as they could possibly be. Part of the point of civility is that we could be discussing issues of substance instead of wasting time either calling names, or pretending to be all upset because someone else is calling names.
